• wieson@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The American gun nuts would suffer from the same problem as the Russians: no logistics.

    Local defence platoons are only effective if the army does the organising.

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      American gun nuts vs. Russian soldiers

      • American civilians have superior drip
      • American civilians have fired more rounds at the range
      • Americans prefer watery beer and thus have a longer period before inebriation renders them ineffective
      • Similar (ie absent) logistics

      idk, still sounds like a pretty firm American win to me 💪

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        1 year ago

        Yep. Still better to have a fatty foi de gras type liver than a completely cirrhosed liver.

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      As a self-described gun nut, I’d say the American civilian has a few other things going for them.

      First, unlike most Russians, they’ve been to the range before likely sighting in yet another optic because this week is Elcan hype week, so this isn’t their first time handling a gun.

      Second, they want to be there. Whether it’s defending their community or as part of a relief effort, the American volunteered. You cannot underestimate how important that is in any fight.

      Last but not least, there’s also the difference in sustainment equipment available. The Russian Army can’t reliably provide socks. Americans can show up with a twelve-pack of Hanes from a Walmart or Target, let alone the really Gucci stuff like Darn Tough and Bison Wool Co. The Russians get to huddle together for warmth, Americans have Wiggy’s and Kifaru to name just a few respected brands for sleeping bags/Woobies. Then there’s boots, which you’ll hear a ton of discussion on, but armies march on their feet and there are still some wonderful boots made in the US that can keep the wearer from getting trench foot in combat conditions. The Russians saw their boot funds get diverted to the General’s dacha.

      The list just goes on from there. Thanks to decades of GWOT purchasing, America has massive amounts of surplus on the civilian market that is serviceable though heavy, and that’s second and third tier stuff compared to the top civilian and tactical gear that’s readily available. Resupply might be an issue, but the American would start off significantly better equipped, which means resupply can focus on the essentials to keep them in the fight: food, water, medical, combatives.

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        It’s funny - the most important things that the American gun nut is likely to own is probably things other than the gun.

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          You’re completely right. Even in combat areas, soldiers aren’t shooting 100% of the time, it’s more like 1-5%. The rest of the time they take care of their body’s needs, and I’d rather be on the side with wool socks than the side wrapping their feet up with cotton cloth because they don’t have socks.

          Also, pro-tip for anybody even thinking they’ll see ”excitement”. Wet wipes are your friend. Get your tush nice and clean, can use another wipe to give yourself a whore’s bath.