• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    If there is evidence then let’s hear it in court. We are not an Autocracy.

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      6 months ago

      Uhh, yeah, we’re a representative democracy. This passed through both houses of congress and is on its way to be signed by the president. You know, the completely normal legislative process.

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          6 months ago

          Only way you’re voting yourself out of the US is with your feet. There are no mechanisms to relinquish citizenship (and your vote, barring convictions) while remaining in the country permanently.

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                6 months ago

                Okay you’re obviously not getting it. If you vote for people who ignore the Constitution then you won’t have any rights.

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                  6 months ago

                  That hasn’t been the case for 50 years. Your rights are inalienable as long as there’s some enforcement mechanism. All three branches have walked back certain rights in various forms in modern times.

                  Be the change you want to see; work in Federal service, get yourself elected for any local or Federal positions, or draft policy for lawmakers

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                    Dude, you made me snort chicken. Inalienable rights are a lot older than 50 years. Yeah 70 years ago a lot of people stood up to fight for them but that doesn’t magically protect them now. Having rights in theory means nothing if we let the government give itself the power to ignore those rights.

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          I mean sure, if you pass a constitutional amendment, I guess? Which this is not.

          “I don’t like this law that our democratically elected representatives passed” does not mean that the law threatens democracy. You’re allowed to not like it, of course. That’s actually a big part of democracy.

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            6 months ago

            Just because they were elected does not mean you’ve avoided autocracy. There isn’t a magic shield. You need to make sure they are respecting the Constitution and our Rights. If they assign themselves autocratic powers then you’re going to live in an autocracy. And make no mistake, giving the executive the power to just declare a corporation illegal is autocratic. It’s literally out of the playbook.

            This is why our Constitution repeatedly says the government must use due process and prove its case in court.