• Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    Dunno about Germany. It had a big move to the right. The second strongest party is now right, passing two other traditional established parties.

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      Its amazing what happens when your erstwhile left-leaning parties spend more time playing footsie with billionaires then actually solving problems for regular people.

      The political left has gotten too cosy with neoliberalism, and forgotten their roots, ceding kitchen-table issues to the right-wing.

      Which is insane, because the right doesn’t care about the poor except as grist for the mill, they’re just better at faking empathy, or at least milking victimization

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        Well, that’s what liberal democracy does to originally left-leaning politicians.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      5 months ago

      Definitely agree. Maybe you could argue that you’d just need to cut out former East Germany to make the post accurate, but even overall, germanys far right is definitely strong.

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      5 months ago

      Do german not see the effects of climate change? Why would they not vote for green party? Germany has faced such harsh weather this year with all sorts of weirdness

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        Yes climate change all fine and well, but have you actually seen what they want us to do? Ride one of those gay bicycles to work and eat less beef. Next thing you know they want to put up renewable energy wind turbines in my neighborhood, that ruins the pretty landscape! No, I dont want to tighten ecological protections, why do you ask?

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          5 months ago

          Guys, is it gay to be strong and be self-reliant by transporting yourself with the power of your muscles?

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            Well, if you put on a skimpy outfit that emphasises those muscles and smear yourself in oil before going out and self-transport using them, it might be a little bit gay …

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              5 months ago

              You’re confusing transportation with recreation. Real bike-riders wear street clothes.

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                True: pure Transportation can’t really be gay or not be gay as it’s orthogonal to the subject of sexuality.

                However, nothing stops people from mixing some Recreation into their Transportation if they’re willing to lose some efficiency in the latter and I was just imagining how one could possibly do it for making it somehow “gay”.

                PS: Should I’ve put an /s in my previous post?

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                  PS: Should I’ve put an /s in my previous post?

                  Nah, I got it. It’s just that even referencing misconceptions (e.g. that cycling is for lycra-clad wannabe-racers) derisively helps spread them, and unlike my previous comment, I couldn’t think of a way to rebut this one and be funny at the same time.

                  In other words, it was really more of a “me” problem: promoting utility cycling is kinda my pet issue. I didn’t write it, but this pretty much captures the perspective I’m coming from and how strongly I feel about it.

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                    Well, I too am a great fan of cycling as a normal form of tranportation (and have done it for over a decade in both The Netherlands and the UK).

                    It’s just that the challenge of “how to make cycling gay?” was too good for me to refrain from trying to come up with a “solution” for it ;)

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        In addition to the other comments: Germany has a lot of voters that are like 60+, some of which either don’t care too much because they will die long before the worst of climate change happens, or simply don’t want to change. Any policies that try to reduce carbon emissions are met with criticism by people not wanting to change their own behavior.

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            Sadly true! It seems their TikTok marketing campaign has paid off. I’m very disappointed by that.

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          Can’t speak for Europe, but Canadian green parties are an uncomfortable split between true-believers that are unfortunately spending more time on identity politics than environmentalism, and hucksters looking to make money off the green movement.

          …and honestly they’re more of the latter.

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            That’s what happens in liberal democracys. Even the German social democrats are neoliberals. You can also see it in Great Britain with the “labour” party.

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        Because voting Green would mean that the Greens could and would make decisions that would actually change stuff and therefore would force people to change things in their life and face reality (using cars/flying less, changing your diet, not using gas/oil for heating homes etc.). But people want to carry on like always even if it means they’ll literally drown doing it and that’s what the fascists (and would-be fascists aka “conservatives” and “liberals”) are doing/promising, so that’s what people are voting. It’s the same as voting for conservatives / liberals after the financial crisis, literally the people who made the mess were told to carry on with it. It’s so bizarre.

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        A coalition of the Green party and two others currently governs the country. The two bigger of those, Green party being one of them, lost a lot of votes, the small one (that’s arguably the biggest issue for governing and publicity) didn’t.

        The green party had a huge success and increase in voters three years ago. But the way it went, the public communication and issues between the three parties, the inflation, and other energy cost increases presumably lead to voters now choosing to vote against them.

        The central-right that governed for many years before received most votes. The far right, under institutional observation because of its danger to the constition/opposition to the constitution, had a big increase in voters too. Especially in the eastern states (previously eastern Germany) - traditionally more right-leaning.