• D61 [any]@hexbear.net
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    7 days ago

    I remember the good ol’ days when the Ukraine/Russia war was absolutely not a proxy war between the USA and Russia. theiss-explanation

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    7 days ago

    me and most of the developing world have mixed feelings about the war in ukraine. at the very least it’s white people’s problems. at the limit we’re pissed by the west trying to rally us behind a country that stopped black people from leaving when the invasion came and that is receiving many times the amount of help that many of us have received during catastrophes, against a country that, wicked as it can be, never really messed with our internal affairs.

    that being said, this is war and russia cannot complain that it didn’t knew what was coming. deal with it (spoiler: they will).

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      7 days ago

      wicked as it can be, never really messed with our internal affairs.

      When you realize Ukraine is the reason Russia hasn’t come for other countries, it’ll make more sense.

      I get that you’re apparently in a nation you classify as developing. The same label can be applied to America in 1200ad or Ukraine/Gaza in 2025 – in all cases, no ability to prevent colonizers from taking the land if they choose.

      Unchecked, we’re all at risk. Just, developing countries are at risk of facing a war even more outbalanced than the belligerent invasion of Ukraine or Gaza.

  • trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 days ago

    Good. You don’t get to invade another country and expect that they won’t hit back. I wish Russia a very getting the fuck out of the country they don’t belong in.

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    7 days ago

    So those drone strikes on Moscow and mortar hits on Belgorod were not “counter strikes into Russia”?

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      7 days ago

      Those weren’t done with us made/designed weapons, so in the context of this… no they don’t count.

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      Idk if you read the article but this is specifically about US provided weaponry

      Pentagon spokesman Maj. Charlie Dietz said in a statement that the US “has agreed to allow Ukraine to fire US-provided weapons into Russia across where Russian forces are coming to attempt to take Ukrainian territory.”

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      7 days ago

      And then there’s the burning of the recruitment offices… no, wait, that was average Russians lol

      Also, the ridiculous notion that they shouldn’t when they are obviously need to push Russians back into their own country and keep the line there.

      US congressmen and the executive office should have nothing to do with military operations and decisions what so ever, because they are a bunch of slack jawed yokels.

      Shout outs to the Iraq war. Gotta be one of my favourite useless power vacuums for petro companies.

    • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk
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      Just petty tit for tat?

      As opposed to a strategy that allows one nation to attack another knowing no effective response is possible you mean.

      You choose to belittle the idea a nation should expect consequences when they try to seize another nation as petty tit for tat. Rather then a fair response.

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        6 days ago

        Okay but you’re just arguing that the tit for tat is fair. Okay, now what? Ukraine hasn’t a hope in hell of winning this war. This is all just a face saving attempt for US and NATO.

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          5 days ago

          It’s not tit-for-that to allow them to better fight against their invader. It was a weird restriction to begin with

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          Bollocks. The Ukraine has every hope of convincing Russia to leave its soil. If it has the support of other nations.

          Having those nations allow the Ukraine to use weapons supplied in a way that forces Russia to actually spend resources defending its own inferstructure is the first step to lowering there ability to push everything they have into another nation.

          The Ukraine has done a fantastic job of limiting the ability of Russia to over run its nation. While being limited in its ability to respond to the attacker. Forcing Russia to defend its ow borders will make a huge difference in the Ukraine ability to remove Russia fro mits own borders.

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      7 days ago

      Russia uses airfields, staging grounds, installations outside of Ukraine for their attacks since they’re relatively safe because of these limits imposed on the provided weapons.