Supreme Court ruled the President gets near absolute immunity and can’t have evidence brought forth against him lmaoo

Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no immunity for unofficial acts.

Testimony or private records of the President or his advisers probing such conduct may not be admitted as evidence at trial.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    33·
    5 days ago

    Liberals telling me the president can’t just do anything he wants because that would be like trump and the scotus is just like “yeah he literally can’t do crimes so go hog wild”.

    • Justice@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      3·
      5 days ago

      “We’ll simply continue to do nothing even though we hold the executive office, and if we just keep sternly telling the Republicans that this is wrong and bad they will eventually stop!”

      Imagine if Lincoln, after the confederate states declared their independence from the United States, had just said “gosh darn gee wilikers! There’s nothing I can do because it would be mean and make me an authoritarian tankie!”

      There are times to play by the rules and there are times to give up the delusion that both sides are even pretending there are rules and that time came decades ago. I also believe in judging people by their actions rather than rhetoric and cheap talk. Trump has talked the talked and walked the walk as far as he could. I believe him. Biden says he opposes trump, yet does absolutely fucking nothing to stop him when he holds all the power. My own internal logic forces me to see that these two people aren’t on opposite sides of anything… their disagreements amount to more of inner party squabbling than anything substantive.

      All I know is Biden has about 5 months left before Trump might win the election in which he could sign an EO declaring the Trump admin including the president himself to be terrorists and then have them taken out. If he and the dems really really really believe all the shit they say will happen will actually happen, well, you’ve run out the clock on institutional power stopping him. The institutions just said he did nothing wrong and never can effectively. But they also said it about you, Joey. You’re also 8000 years old. Just do it.

    • LaughingLion [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      3·
      5 days ago

      or any us citizen for any reason

      on the other side this is what the constitution means by “high crimes” for impeachment. those arent like sexual violence or murder or whatever. high crimes are abuses of power. i think under this interpretation they are saying the president can basically do whatever and its up to congress to hold them accountable.

      in reality we know how this will work

    • itappearsthat [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      15·
      5 days ago

      the audiobook for Before the Storm: Barry Goldwater and the Unmaking of the American Consensus has the voice actor do impressions of all the relevant historical figures and his nixon is fuckin hilarious