- cross-posted to:
- discuss@discuss.online
- reddit@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- discuss@discuss.online
- reddit@lemmy.world
Update: !ios_dev@programming.dev has been created, temporarily managed by @Ategon@programming.dev until some mods volunteer for it
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Wow it must be an extremely novel experience for an iOS programmer to have a company arbitrarily make decisions about what you can and cannot do on their platform
Why kick 'em when they’re down already?
[Edit: upon reflection, this post went too far. To any who saw it, I apologize.]
Apple bad
Wait hold on
People wanting to make software for widely used devices bad?
Who even still uses apple devices in 2023?
- Sent from a cave far away from America.
Everyone but the oldest sister in the cave next to yours!
Ok that WAS clever
To anyone who is curious what it said something to the effect of:
why not they seem to like the boot already
I wish I could say that Google is better at that. It’s basically the same story but with even less humans to talk to when you’re flagged for doing something wrong or in the case of Google your former college roommate whom you haven’t seen in 10 years did something wrong. It’s the price all mobile devs pay unless they only want to distribute to a small subset of users who have liberated their phones.
when I started with mobile apps google was easy and apple was a problem.
nowadays apple is very clear on what they allow and what they don’t and it’s possible to go back and forth with them to get something approved.
google is trying their hard to be as strict as apple while putting 0 of the effort in to correct problems. not to mention that android is a fucking piece of garbage to maintain. you have like 4 deadlines per year, you need to update this or that thing or your app won’t work on this or that device, or the deprecation deadline for fucking safetynet arrives and they take two weeks to repair the google play integrity service.
tbh i think that safetynet and other attestation features are a waste of time and should die.
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there’s a story there that I want to read
There was a time when at least once a month on that “other site”’s android channel that you would see a post about someone getting their account permanently banned. Sometimes it was because they made a spammy app while in high school or college but had turned over a new leaf and were using a new Google account. Sometimes it was a company who had employed someone who had been previously banned but only ever signed into the play console under a company email but probably also signed into their personal mail on the work machine. How true are the claims? I can’t say.
lol gottem
you do realize in this regard google/Apple are two sides of the same coin right?
I don’t think he was drawing a comparison.
Mobile development sucks in general.
I tried to follow an Android tutorial (in Kotlin, so it should have been a modern one) a while ago, and the only conclusion I can come to is it was all designed by 500 different people over 15 years who never spoke to each other, and nobody ever dared throw anything away.
I’ve never seen such a basic CRUD app (and incidentally wasn’t even doing the C, U or D of that) take so many lines of code to do “properly”. Nothing that simple should be that complex. Everything seems geared up for “what if you want to translate to 100 different languages, change the back end at any point, and individually configure forms for these 80 different aspect ratios on devices?” Yeah, what if I don’t?
I still use Delphi for my sins, and while it has its faults (mostly that it’s closed source, and no fucker else uses it so I can’t work anywhere else), but simple apps like that are “drop a few things on a form, add half a dozen lines of code and run it”.
There’s all these places in Android that should be easy, but because you’re going through three levels of XML files and umpteen factory classes, it isn’t.
Eh, no need to bring the iOS/Android fight into this. OP saw an opportunity for a joke and took it. The butt of the joke is iOS because that’s what the sub is about. If it were for android the same joke could be made, though folks would probably make different ones with other more glaring issues that Google has.
NSOofTbf I’ve found google and apple fairly good to develop for(they handle app signing, deployment and more)
Once you fork over the cash, that is…
Woah! Sick burn, bro!
We really don’t need this sort of pathetic shit posting.
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What’s reddit
Lemmy-like platform. But looks like they haven’t implemented ActivityPub yet.
They sound pretty shady. Think we should defederate?
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Dam lemmy.world at it again
I heard they have some piracy communities, so that’s reason enough for most admin
I also saw a picture of someone with braces there once.
Removed by mod
What did I do to your fediverse mark? I don’t recall having these powers…please explain
They also seem to want to replace moderators with AI and even bought a company that does so. Weird, and probably easy to abuse. Wouldn’t trust.
I don’t know why these platforms think they’ll ever take off without even implementing federation. It’s 2023!
hola
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bxdbx
Remember Digg? It’s like that except it’s mostly bots.
Ah so it’s kinda like Digg?
It’s a website where bots talk to each other and posts links from all over the internet in order to scam corporations out of ad revenue.
Dead Internet theory personified.
A centralized, proprietary alternative to Lemmy.
I think its like Chlamydia but you catch it from sticking your head too far up your ass (hence spez has it the worst)
a marketing tool
Sorry you lost your community. That really sucks.
On the other hand, welcome to a new community!
I’m just passing along the message. Communicate directly with the person responsible on Mastodon.
More Lemmy users need to be like you.
Why are Lemmy users Assholes.
Because Lemmy users are also humans and humans are assholes.
Why are Lemmy users Assholes.
Because most Lemmy users are ex (or current) reddit users.
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At this point, to me, it’s fuck reddit, spez is just a scapegoat that does what the board wants and all other admin happy to comply, he doesn’t own it like elon owns twitter
Yep. Some of us remember when it was Fuck Ellen Pao, they seem to like their sacrificial CEOs over there, though I’m sure they get paid too much to be the scapegoat.
That just makes me stop and think about how bad Musk loves being That Guy. The other ones will take the heat and then float away on their golden parachutes, you never really hear from them again. Not him. He keeps making new companies so he can be That Guy at them.
That Guy sounds like a henchman of The Man
reminder that spez has literally admitted (in a print article) that he foresees himself being a slave owner
Reminder that Reddit is a massive company and they’re using spez as fall guy and it’s completely working. It’s the only reason he has a job still.
oh yeah, but it’s also fun to bully the head dweeb who put himself in the position to be the face of this massive company.
He’s not exactly the fall guy, he’s the co-founder who was on the “victory lap” of steering the ship after the last fall guy (Ellen Pao) took the heat and he steered the ship into another problem before installing another fall guy.I mean, that is unless we’re talking about who is embedded into the company from outside entities. Have a look at Reddit’s Director of Policy, who she worked for before and where, and try to post her name or history on Reddit. In my experience, it gets you permanently banned.
Reddit is officially state apparatus?
Always has been
Don’t know if just a typo, but for large parts of the Anglosphere, spaz is an unacceptable ableist slur. It’d be great if you could find a different way to insult Huffman, ta.
Yeah i think it was autocorrect, I’ll fix that no sweat
Ya know as a rabid egalitarian socialist who idolizes John Brown I feel that slavery is universally wrong. So why do I suddenly feel the want to ebslave Spez for about a week?
What!? Where? I haven’t heard that one yet
Thank you for fighting a good fight. You’re far better than 98% of the boot-consuming power trippers that folded the moment it looked like they might lose their paper throne. Welcome home.
I’m just passing along the message. Communicate directly with the person responsible on Mastodon.
Thank you for your service o7
I’m just passing along the message. Communicate directly with the person responsible on Mastodon.
Walled garden programming sub walled out of own garden
How’s your linux phone doing?
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You know that all Apple devices are Unix too? You’re not making a point and do not know what you’re talking about.
Test missing comment please ignore
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Eventually it was bound to happen. Still sad to see mods getting removed to make way for more Spez friendly replacements
Coming from r/DnDMemes I feel you dude. Thank you for putting it all on the line and sticking to what you felt was right.
I’m just passing along the message. Communicate directly with the person responsible on Mastodon.
Have you found an alt on lemmy for dnd memes?
https://ttrpg.network/c/rpgmemes
I’m new to Lemmy, not sure how to do the fancy link thing. There are a couple other communities too. I’ll get to posting there eventually.
Thanks!! I’m relatively new myself, although I’ve been off and on since the death of 3P on that other place. Trying to rebuild my collection of communities and such
I dont get why subreddit mods work or worked for free for a company that makes money from what they do ……
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Look I get it but some of these people going to work for free are just screwing over everyone else who wants to get paid for their value. Also it leads to corruption in that the mods of places find a way to get paid anyways.
Probably same reason people go crazy for power, no matter how small of an amount
You can make money doing it, you just have to have extremely loose morals.
Not sure what he expected. I commend all the protesting, but we all saw how reddit responded. They didn’t give two shits. Yet people stick around in a toxic relationship with the site until they get removed. It’s weird. Why not just make the move to Lemmy before they take everything from you?
This 100%
This is borderline bootlicking. Not sure what he expected? A protest is a protest dude. That line is GOP approved.
Is there a community here for it yet?
Closest thing is !mobiledev@programming.dev currently, I’ve just reached out to one of the iOSProgramming mods about if they want to set up here
Update: we now have !ios_dev@programming.dev, temporarily managed by me until we get some mods for it
I was looking for a better place to post this.
Yeah this is the best spot atm in the instance, its a catchall community for programming things in the instance. The ios dev community is currently going through the community request process and then this can be crossposted into there
just keeps Digging themselves deeper in the hole.Thank you for your service. Now watch the place burn.
Reddit and
twitterX, racing to see who can burn their company to ash the quickest.Let’s be real… as long as people act like brainless animals, there will be zoos they enjoy being in. Reddit lost nothing, sooner than later more and more people will more and more give in and everything will go back to how reddit was. The number of people who care is miniscule.
Reddit took a calculated risk and they probably allowed for a wide margin of error.
IMO Reddit’s risk is paying off. Lemmy isn’t a replacement and tons of people are still using it daily.
I wouldn’t even call it “calculated”… they calculated nothing… they can always rely on the puppies going back and drooling all over reddit.
Normies just don’t care about this stuff. Simple as.
I’m surprised they gave a shit for /r/iOSProgramming since it’s not as popular. It’s more niche but yeah sad to hear. Glad I got rid of reddit after the API shutdown.
They don’t “give a shit” about what sub it is, they just have automated things that do this.
Ah that’s explains it. Thank you
