Context: The company is German and has been around long enough (120 years) to have seen it used as a hate symbol during WW2.

  • CoachDom@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    Right, I have the exact seat - but I don’t see any nazi symbolism here? Are you talking about the cross at the bottom?

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      1 year ago

      Are you talking about the cross at the bottom?

      Yes. It was displayed by Nazis, most notably on Luftwaffe planes during WW2.

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          1 year ago

          A German company dating back to WW2 using a WW2 Nazi symbol on their 2023 product isn’t at least a little suspect?

          I honestly couldn’t believe it.

          Also, how’s the saddle? I’m considering getting it. LOL

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            1 year ago

            Hahaha I’m not saying it’s not a funny coincidence, because it is - I just don’t think it was intentional :D Probably just a international red cross symbol, usually associated with medical/health, but in this context…

            It’s really comfortable! I bought it in Lidl for around $15 to replace my stock saddle which was hard as life itself. Big difference - couldn’t sit on my ass for weeks after a longer cycle on the old one. No issues now.

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              1 year ago

              The saddle literally has Medicus in its name and written on the product but yes surely the cross is not associated with medicine but with the Nazis.

              Op is a bit trigger happy and looking to be offended.

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                1 year ago

                As posted previously, they changed the symbol from a more traditional medical cross to this WW2 Nazi emblem cross.

                I’m not offended, nor do I intend to offend. I thought it was funny. Sheesh.

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                  1 year ago

                  Dude stop calling it a WW2 Nazi cross unless you want to call the current German military also Nazis for using the Balkenkreuz.

                  Please go educate yourself before you make such wild claims.

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                    Dude stop calling it a WW2 Nazi cross

                    I’ve merely pointed out that Nazis used it on pretty much every military vehicle, more so than swastikas.

                    unless you want to call the current German military also Nazis for using the Balkenkreuz.

                    Does this look remotely similar to you??

                    In any case, it was a post I made from a funny observation. You can calm down now. It’s really not that important.

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              It’s really comfortable! I bought it in Lidl for around $15 to replace my stock saddle which was hard as life itself. Big difference - couldn’t sit on my ass for weeks after a longer cycle on the old one. No issues now.

              Seems like pricing in Europe is way cheaper than North America. It’s like $50+ Canadian.

              I’ve got a Brooks Cambium C17 that I’ve ridden with for thousands of KM, but it’s not super comfortable after 120km at a time, even with padded shorts. My MTB, on the other hand, has a relatively cheap saddle that feels more comfortable with regular shorts… this Wittkop looks like a nice alternative to the Brooks.

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        Wait you can immediately tell it’s not the same symbol.

        -The item’s symbol has a hollow inside. The one depicted in your pic is heavy black, as you can see that it’s darker than the plane itself.
        -The pic shows a heavy, bold white outline. This outline is not present in the item’s symbol.
        -Also just of note, the item’s symbol color is red. Isn’t that plane using A black/white color for it’s cross, like the swastika’s color scheme?

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          -The item’s symbol has a hollow inside. The one depicted in your pic is heavy black, as you can see that it’s darker than the plane itself.

          That’s the difference between a printed logo and a vinyl sticker, not the emblem itself.

          -The pic shows a heavy, bold white outline. This outline is not present in the item’s symbol.

          The outline is there, but bold white would have looked silly (from a design standpoint of the saddle)

          Also just of note, the item’s symbol color is red. Isn’t that plane using A black/white color for it’s cross, like the swastika’s color scheme?

          The Balkenkreuz was typically black and white, but on a red background flag. I’m not sure the company would go all out with a red coloured saddle. Haha!

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            I honestly feel like you’re making shit up to make a fairly offensive joke. If they were really trying to make the offensive cross, “It would have looked silly” isn’t remotely an argument. Plus white goes on most colors, especially Black which is the color of the item, so there’s no reason it couldn’t have been used.