Musk has posted about an impending civil war on his social media platform X at least eight times in the past 10 months. Some warn it’s dangerous rhetoric.
Tech billionaire Elon Musk has repeatedly prophesied a future civil war related to immigration.
Musk has posted about the subject on his social media platform X at least eight times in the past 10 months, according to a review of his posts by NBC News. And his posts usually include a specific prediction: He thinks that Europe in particular is headed toward a “civil war” due to the arrival of refugees from other continents.
Musk’s interest in the subject of a civil war poked into public view earlier this month when he weighed in on anti-immigration street riots happening across Great Britain. “Civil war is inevitable,” he wrote on X.
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Musk’s rhetoric is unheard-of for a corporate executive speaking in public, but the prediction of a civil war has become a frequent talking point among some far-right activists who view a civil war in Europe or the U.S. as not only unavoidable but also as something to be welcomed.
“What you’re seeing in these calls for civil war is a white supremacist clarion call. It is a dog whistle,” said Jon Lewis, a research fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism.
I have a feeling that too many people are seeing a civil war through the lens of Hollywood - where you get to follow the hero and his/her ragtag group. They get into trouble, get hurt and knocked down but in the end they prevail and save the day/country. While there maybe blood and violence it’s never really too bad.
What I think people don’t understand or want to think about is how fucking miserable a full blown civil war would be for most everyone. Sure the mega-rich will be able to wall off the worst of it, but the 99% are going to feel it and it would suck.
So to all those people that are wishing for a civil war - fuck off. You will not be the Hollywood hero you think you will be, more than likely you will be one of 1,000’s of corpses littering the ground.
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mega-rich
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the 99%
The two parties of the war that we actually need.
You know the 99% percent will soon look for another 1% soon after they win, right? It’s America, without Rich guys to look up to you don’t have a culture or purpose.
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The super rich make bank on civil wars. A good and proper war in any developed country would make hundreds of new billionaires and thousands of new millionaires: the hugest wealth transfer in history for that unlucky country.
Meanwhile most of the patriots, true believers, on all sides, who fight, would be dead or maimed or locked up. With most others stuck in poverty , illness and bad leadership whoever won.
Its good business for Musk and company to give a little push now and then
You did a good job of enumerating my thoughts. I think that they think that war will be enable them to act out their power fantasy and line up how you’re saying.
The only people wishing for civil war are too short-sighted to understand how horribly it would go for them. Ports, airports, water treatment plants, data centers, power stations etc etc etc predominantly located in urban areas. Good luck to the AR-15 loving whackjobs when they’re instantly landlocked and deprived of foreign trade and means to communicate. They turn on the TV and the only broadcasts they’d see are “this can end now and it all starts with you”
I’ve found myself taking a paradoxically accelerationist stance about it, for this exact reason. At the moment, those on the right agitating for violence are a minority, and those that are actually prepared to act consist primarily of a few thousand militia LARPers and an even smaller number of actually-capable fighters. These groups are gradually accruing malcontents while the right wing’s filter bubble casts their ideas as acceptable, but the sooner those chuds decide to go loud, the more lopsided and emphatic the beatdown will be – provided that the armed forces are under the command of non-authoritarian President. Afterwards the public condemnation of insurrectionists will effectively choke off recruiting. Conflict feels almost inevitable at this point and giving the violent authoritarian fringe more time to plan and recruit only makes that conflict deadlier.
The militia movement has grown massively in recent years, there’s thousands of militia members in most states at this point.
Most of them, white supremacists.
Probably millions of dead. The American Civil War only lasted four years and the death toll is somewhere between 650,000 and 1.5 million. A modern war would either be extremely quick or a long running insurgency that ends up with potentially millions dead.
I was always told that billionaires are so caught up in their work and are constantly making money and hustling. This man has more time on his hands than a homeless dude. And he owns like 4 companies? Just goes to show that this is all part of the mythologizing of wealthy people and in their boredom they develop the most perverse self perspective that idolizes themselves. They also surround themselves with yes men who help perpetuate their ego until it grows out of control and turns them into fascists.
Just a thought.
Reminds me of the saying, we do not all have the same 24 hours.
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He’s never changed, we just didn’t have social media back in the PayPal days.
Let’s not forget that the recent racism fueled rioting in the UK was triggered by a lie that was spread and amplified on Twitter.
Just like Brexit, the Kremlin’s disinformation on social media is behind it.
This guy and the other oligarchs are the 2nd biggest threat to the country.
What’s the first? Right wing nationalism? If so, it’s been systematically propped and fostered by the oligarchs to sow division. It wouldn’t be the problem it is without their continued support.
Before Trump they did not have a champion.
Apartheid Clyde is interested in Civil War huh? Ya don’t say.
You can tell people have never seen civil war when they’re excited for one.
Or any kind of war.
It’s not so bad… for the super-rich and powerful who can afford to buy protection or simply jet off to a peaceful place while cheering for whatever side they favor.
Remember this guy was born in a white-minority-ruled country. Comfy in his luxury gated community while paid tugs would break the heads of the blacks who would dare poke out of their “townships” (shanty towns) to ask for fair treatment.
I don’t know why we haven’t simply eaten him yet.
The walls around his castle are too high and there are too many guards.
Where do the guards live?
How high are their walls?
Eat the rich - and their tasty appetiser henchmen.
I bet they’re also made of meat.
Just another tool who expects a) everyone else would do the fighting and dirty work, and b) he’s going to be on the winning side and in charge.
He should join Lemmy.
“What you’re seeing in these calls for civil war is a white supremacist clarion call. It is a dog whistle,” said Jon Lewis, a research fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism.
Hmmm …
“The Turner Diaries is a 1978 novel by William Luther Pierce, a neo-Nazi and the founder and chairman of National Alliance, a white nationalist group, published under the pseudonym Andrew Macdonald. It depicts a violent revolution in the United States which leads to the overthrow of the federal government, a nuclear war, and ultimately a race war which leads to the systematic extermination of non-whites and Jews. All groups opposed by the novel’s protagonist, Earl Turner—including Jews, non-white people, “liberal actors,” and politicians—are murdered en masse.”
The fact that I’ve heard people unironically call for the Day of the Rope.
That’s the ending of the book when the liberals lose power because of all the fucking nukes that the “Heroes” dropped and the “Good White Men” stand up and start lynching all the people who “Let it get so bad” in public. The book even says that many “Innocent” people were killed in the conclusion of it, but the heroes write it off as a “necessary sacrifice for the greater good”
It’s full of insanity that feels more like parody, but this is their actual fantasy… A war-torn uninhabitable nuclear wasteland where the survivors just pick non-descript fruit all day.
This is a book where the good guy beats a white teenager to death withe a crowbar because she had the gall to get raped by a black man, and that’s obviously her fault… /s This guy is said to be a calm nerdy type who was liberal all his life too…
It’s also said that white feminists legalized rape to promote equality between the sexes, yes I’m not kidding. The whole book is the most fucked up piece of shit I’ve ever seen in my life.
There’s just… so much wrong with Turner Diaries it makes my spine hurt. It really reads like a cautionary tale about fascism written as an extremely edgy parody of “What Right Wingers actually believe”, but… no this book really means that…
Edit: Wait what did he say that had to do with the Turner Diaries.
He’s going to try to run after Trump, isn’t he? Would be shocked if he didn’t. He’s already setting up his confederate pivot
I don’t think he’s actually eligible. He was born in South Africa.
In the land for the rich, I doubt that technicality is going to be a problem
Exactly what I’m thinking. We’re letting trump run in spite of his felonies, i don’t see why the richest prick in the world wouldn’t try to inject himself into our countries politics. He could drop 10 billion on the endeavor and be no worse off whether he succeeds or fails at the gambit
the constitution has a specific rule that presidents have to be natural born citizens. the only other limit is minimum age of 35. there are no rules that say a felon can’t be president. well, no rules yet.
Yep, absolutely right. Kinda crazy but it’s for good reasons, though i don’t think trump should be allowed to run again for other reasons than simply the felonies… but that’s another discussion
I will laugh my ass off watching him faceplant.
Id join you in chuckling but I’ll never forget the feeling of election night 2016 when every poll has trump losing and Dems had broken their arms patting each other on the back and had spent the cycle scoring Trump and his voter’s chances. Anything is possible when half of people don’t vote, and even those who want to have to face a gauntlet of deliberate obstacles.
When can we deport him? Trump want to deport anyone not born here and in this case I might want to help.
Ay yo! What’s up with south Africans and civil war?!
Propagandists must spend a fortune influencing the wealthy. If enough is known about them, they might even be targeted by advertisements at the individual level by fine-tuned demographics.
I dunno, Elon musk would be the equivalent of old Kent Road in monopoly (or whatever the cheap first properties after go are in your localised monopoly). You could build some hotel sized conspiracies with him for very little investment.
And now the winner is drumrolls E L O N Musk! He’s the first living entity to be shot to mars!
Curiosity killed the rat
He should be the first living entity to be shot THROUGH Mars.
Or in mars.
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