I just read someone claiming mao was an imperialist and I think it’s doing real psychic damage

  • RoomAndBored [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    The only ‘lesser’ people in Tibet were the theocratic lama class who ruled over a serfdom and had literal slaves. China’s liberation of Tibet is one of the unalloyed goods of the 20th century.

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        The same cannot be said for most countries colonized by western powers because they did not overthrow the oppressive classes, instead they empowered them and made them into subordinate comprador classes, the British innovations to the Indian caste system being a famous example and the Belgian cannibal overseers of the Congo being a lesser known one

        Like this is basic history of imperialism 101 stuff

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        So western powers which colonised countries and either or both brought slaves or enslaved local populations are the same as a liberating force which dismantled a feudal slave system that persisted into the 1940s? Did I get that right?

        Don’t forget that Chinese people had direct experience as slaves, being used as coolies (苦力) across the Americas and the Caribeen. The emancipation of the Chinese people and their neighbours is in no way equivalent in your fatuous example.

        Go suck an egg, fuckhead.

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            Free-er than you!

            Here are Tibetan serfs burning the leases that legally bound them to their lords’ estates

            Here is the PLA training a women’s militia, so they can go shoot to death the landlords and theocrats who have enslaved them for a thousand years (look at that smile!)

            Here is the CIA’s opinion on the matter (note, China was still controlled by the nationalists so that’s what ‘pro-China’ means, the Mongolian People’s Republic were the closest communists)

            I’ll just

            leave these here

            Tibet has High Speed Rail. Do you?

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            You do realize it was the Tibetan peasant majority who raised up against the theocracy alongside the Chinese Red Army, an army that had tens of thousands of Tibetan volunteers

            Like you do know that basic historical fact right? And aren’t just going off some late-night CNN documentary ass conception of history?

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              Actually all of my knowledge of Tibet comes from the excellent heartwarming documentary Seven Years In Tibet starring Brad Pitt as good-guy Nazi SS Officer Heinrich Harrer, who was a true friend to all the oppressed peoples of the world!

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            If you come in here with apologia for slavery, I don’t care about continuing a polite discussion and I am not going to engage you civily. There may have been different circumstances in which I would be willing to engage with you on these topics, but not from this angle and in this context.

            You’re more than welcome to to hang around, and you may begin to understand why we are prickly and have little patience for people who want to debate and pontificate, especially recently.

            Enjoy the rest of your day.

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            We are not used to users not knowing some things, a product of isolation.

            Now, what civil liberties they don’t have in Tibet?

            Aside from illegal same sex marriage which is a valid criticism