I see the rules currently state “Nothing from realistic models trying to generate real people.”
To verify I understand this correctly, does this mean realistic imagery is OK as long as it does not mimic the likeness of a real person (aka deepfakes)?
For example, a photo-realistic image of a body builder is OK, but a photo-realistic image of Arnold Schwarzenegger is not?
For those wondering, the site rules on this topic (can’t speak for the community.) If the media depicts a topic which is highly illegal and is not blatantly obvious that said media is fake, it risks being removed.
While we strive to allow our users the highest amount of free expression we can offer, we will not host potentially illegal media.
More/different info can be found here: https://burggit.moe/post/34001
I have a question about this - would a community just for discussion and guides around how to generate NSFW AI content, particularly extreme and/or illegal stuff which can’t be shared (gore, realistic loli, bestiality etc) be allowed? To be clear, generated images (and links to them) would be strictly against community rules, alongside the sharing of models trained off real illegal/objectionable content. But there would be very explicit instructions on how to make anything and everything on one’s own PC.
(fwiw - if the community is allowed, I wouldn’t be starting it for a while, until Burggit is more mature)
It would be something that I’d have to heavily advise against, especially right now. I feel there are probably places that are better suited for this sort of content, with the moderation manpower to properly deal with it. The issue we’d have is that this sort of community would require very strict, heavy moderation and could open up a lot of potential work that we frankly wouldn’t want to deal with.
The mods of such a community would have to be really diligent about not letting anything illegal/illicit slip through. This isn’t even mentioning various other issues which could pop up for us if we started hosting such a community.
Understood. I appreciate that you didn’t give a hard no, but I don’t want to hurt the site and fully understand the trouble a community like that could/would bring so I won’t.
It’s ironic how the tools exist to create depictions of harmful content without the real harm they depict, but in being relegated to the same spaces the more ethical yet inconvenient and imperfect option ends up irrelevant to those who don’t care about the source.
I’d like clarification as well. I think it should be clarified that for legal reasons, you shouldn’t be using realistic models to generate loli. There needs to always be some element of art style to the head and body… Or else it becomes indistinguishable from the um… real thing. Which is a line you don’t want to cross.
Agreed. Just finished doing some research on porn laws in the Netherlands since that’s where Burgit is hosted, and thus those laws need to be followed at a minimum. According to Wikipedia, realistic depictions of minors is illegal in the Netherlands, regardless of if a real person is depicted or not. There is an example exception that cherubs don’t count because the addition of wings makes them unrealistic, though that’s uncited. There was also an arrest of an individual who possessed simulated CP that was “indistinguishable from reality at first glance.”
I’d say if someone’s going to post AI loli, it needs to be something that you could tell wasn’t real “at first glance.” Pixar or anime style at most realistic, for example.
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For the Burggit rules, the first image (the one you uploaded) is very obviously not real, and is 100% allowed.
The images you linked from Pixiv I would say would be a hard-no if they were uploaded here and would probably be deleted. I as a visually impaired person, could not tell the difference between either of those images and reality at first glance. The second one I couldn’t register as AI generated at all.
The first pixiv image I did eventually register it was AI, but it took me a little while to do so, had to actively look for it.
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My personal interpretation is I simply shouldn’t post anything generated with those “realistic” or even “2.5D” models. It’s a can of worm and would eventually lead to the argument “but she doesn’t look that young” when a questionable submission is removed.
