First time this happens to me. With a German protonvpn server.

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    I don’t believe anyone mentioned this yet so… here goes nothing, there is a suspicion that this is due to A/B testing

    This is a bug report from the Invidious project; this is back in June 6 (so four months ago), but the hoster of a fairly large instance noted a very bizarre error message on the Invidious project…

    Conclusion is that Youtube is very likely rolling out A/B testing of requiring all clients to login before viewing videos

    Refreshing will probably work considering this is most likely result of an A/B test, but unfortunately I don’t see a way of this problem going away

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      Invidious public instances have been completely blocked by this, it’s no longer AB testing. IDK exactly what triggers it but, too many requests from the same ip is going to show this now… maybe OP vpn exits with an ip shared by too many…

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    YouTube doesn’t like VPNs. Harder to track you (and sell/monetize your data) if they can’t tell who you are.

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      I desperately want a viable alternative to come along. There’s a lot of great content on YouTube, but the platform is increasingly being enshitified.

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          Now if only you could hide the pornographic stuff to not accidentally see disgusting nudity.

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            There’s nothing “disgusting” about nudity. You should shake off those preconceived cultural biases, you’ll be a better person.

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        There’s platforms like Nebula that noticed the decline and also wanted to give creators the freedom to create without needing to deal with an ever changing algorithm

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          LIFETIME MEMBERSHIP $300

          I’m inclined to buy that just because it exists. I hate subscription services so, so much!

          This is the best option if you think you’ll use Nebula for more than 5 years.

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          I’ve considered Nebula a few times. That could absolutely be the alternative I’m looking for if they keep adding creators and topics and variety.

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            They seemingly are adding more creators. At least the ones I’ve followed. I recently just started contacting creators to ask if they’ve even heard of it and willing to contact so ppl can support them that way.

            Patreon is cool but I don’t want to have a subscription for every creator I like and decide on the amount.

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              None of the creators I follow have LiberaPay or crypto as an option either. I don’t want to pay on a proprietary platform.

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              I think patreon recently add an option for creators to make a free tier. Which on one hand could work, but on the other - we’d be constantly bombarded with “to see this video upgrade to the $10 or more tier” which would personally bum me out

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              Thanks for doing the legwork, I appreciate the initiative :) I’m guessing that I’ll end up with a Nebula subscription, I just haven’t pulled the trigger yet.

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                  Thanks for the offer, but I’ll support them from day one when I decide to subscribe :) I already know that several creators on Nebula make good content.

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        It’s a gigantic money sink, it’s going to be extremely hard to come up with a profitable (or break even) alternative.

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        I agree. We just haven’t gotten to the point quite yet. Where the creators revolt. But that stage should appear somewhat shortly.

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        Third party app without an account maybe? Freetube on the desktop and newpipe on the phone is what I like to use. There’s stuff like grayjay, tubearchivist, and pinchflat as well. Or just go straight yt-dlp.

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        Youtube does a ton of evil stuff, but this one is more tame. I suspect the VPN was used to bot and got banned, so the sign-in is required to better target where the traffic is allowed to go, instead of blanket banning everybody using the service.

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          I suspect the VPN was used to bot

          There are plenty of sources, including even in this thread, indicating that that this is not the problem. Quit making excuses for them.

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              It’s not just you. I’m tired of the whole team of people who are always standing by to bring out similar excuses any time someone decides that in their quest to stop invidious from existing — or whatever google is actually aiming at — it’s acceptable to just mass-block all the VPN users as collateral damage.

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                It’s not an excuse though. It’s right there in the error message.

                Where are people getting the impression I think google is some kind of saint who can do no wrong? I don’t even see the “proof” that is being used to say I’m coming to google’s defense. Just a few anecdotal theories… just like I provided.

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                  Ah, so it’s not you coming up with the stupid excuse that they have legit reasons to think the user might be a nefarious “bot”, you’re just passing along the stupid excuse as you interpret it from the meaningless message direct from Google. That explains where you got the idea that “viewbots” had anything to do with it, I guess.

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            Bot can automate views. It’s why Youtube keeps trying to move towards “engagement”. Comments, likes, etc, all require an account, which is an extra hurdle for bots.

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              Then I will they just doing half the work. They can just get the site account walled for that goal, not a half patch work of blocking VPN users.

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        So, the home page includes Peppa pig videos alongside with gruesome skateboarding accident compilations. Something for everyone!

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      You’re on Android use NewPipe and it’s forks, personally I prefer Tubular and PipePipe.

      Periodically YouTube will break, but both of those forks, as well as new pipe prime, update fairly quickly.

      GrayJay it’s interesting. It has different feel and feature set than newpipe, but it’s worth using. I will say I get more login errors with GrayJay, but closing the app and reopening it resolves it.

      All the piped apps will be in f-droid/droidify, you can download GrayJay directly, or just scan the QR to add the repo to a FOSS repo manager.

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    This is the result of them blocking invidious. They targeted large Datacenter nodes and check for the number of requests from those datacenters that aren’t logged in, and block them until that number meets a certain threshold. This also causes people with VPNs to get this message. The solution is to connect to smaller self-hosted invidious instances or using proxies hosted on normal residential ips.

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    It’s a VPN thing. I have a work VPN that gives me the same error on piped API front ends like piped.video

    If I use my regular device without a VPN the alt front ends work fine.

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    Try clicking the sign in button, then navigating back to the video without actually signing in. Seems to work every time I’ve tried it so far.

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    Yea, been having this BIGTIME. Even occurs on grayjay, and pipe apps (newpipe, etc.) Its aggravating. Can’t even download vids either, and the ones u have downloaded are held ransom until u turn it off too 😂 at least in my case. Fuck google.

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    This can be a soft limit where Youtube limits the connection rate so that artificially inflating view count becomes more costly. There are inexpensive ‘services’ especially in India or Pakistan where you can buy human (like a whole internet cafe) view times to your scam video to make it float in suggestions and to promote a channel.

    I don’t work for youtube so it is just a guess.