Imagine still pre-ordering games in 2024
addendum: Denuvo is sick of “toxicity,” says people only hate it because it works
If driving away sales counts as “it works”, then good for them.
People are voting with their wallets. They were willing to buy it. But this effects them and made the game no longer worth it. Pirates will pirate regardless. But you just lost some of the genuine customers by effecting them, pirates will have a “better” version.
If people only hated it because it works, paying customers wouldn’t be cancelling their preorders!
Will wait for crack then 👍
The mistake was pre-ordering in the first place
Shh, if denuvo is what finally makes them learn then let’s just let it play out.
While I agree, we shouldn’t criticize people for learning and changing for the better.
We’ve had decades of pre-order shenanigans, you’d think every gamer and their mother would know to avoid them by now.
The impulse is understandable, but yeah. You’d think they’d learn.
True but we should be calling out the practice as anti consumet behaviour…
Absolutely!
I’m still gonna play it. This just changes whether I pay for it or not.
The one you find while treasure hunting runs better anyway.
You’ll have to wait until the Denuvo license runs out, then.
Cracks for Denevo games tend to run better from what I hear
Denuvo games don’t get cracked any more since around June last year.
Yes, but they still need to get cracked and there’s about only two people we know that do it
And one isn’t, because she got it in her head that people like her for her personality. Lol.
I’m that level of petty.
Atleast the game will be cheaper as well by then. I’ve only just finished the first one, waiting is never a bad thing.
How does denuvo worl on on steam-proton set up?
Sandboxed?
The first game sold millions without any drm. Naturally, they had to add denuvo for the second game.
Their publisher was bought by Embracer shortly after the release of Kingdom Come Deliverance, maybe they’re to blame here.
Unless they push back from within, they will still suffer the backlash from not trusting the fan base.
Because it seems that whatever statistics Denuvo is peddling show that more sales are secured, even if it’s cracked in the first few weeks.
Idk how true that is, obviously, just outlining why they’re buying into it.
Doesn’t need to be true, just convincing to some suits
I can’t wait for the day when Denuvo ends up scaring away more legitimate customers than it actually helps to sell the game. It seems like we are slowly getting there :')
I can’t wait until some major vulnarability in Denuvo pops up and either gets widely exploited or AV programs start to warn against it due to security risks
It’s way past that point long ago.
But shareholders don’t understand that, so publishers will continue forcing developers to use it.
There was a recent report, it only helps during the first few months of sales according to a very flimsy study that was done.
It suggests that it only saves a mean of 15% total revenue during the first 12 weeks.
Though remember, these figures are all just theoretical projections of sales. Basically just “well we believe we should have made this much revenue. So if we don’t make it, it means we lost potential revenue, not that we simply didn’t make as much as we thought we would.”
You’re living in a bubble. Most gamers don’t know and don’t care about it
I don’t see this as refuting the previous point because those who don’t know nor care about Denuvo probably wouldn’t be pirating the game regardless. Pirates and entrenched enthusiasts are the ones in the know, so the real question is how many pirates actually purchase games they otherwise wouldn’t versus enthusiasts who refrain because of its inclusion.
I seriously considered preordering, seeing how much I enjoyed the first installment. Fortunately Denuvo prevented me from doing so. I’ll wait until that piece of trash is patched out, it’ll probably be cheaper by that time as well. Thanks Denuvo!
And it’s not like a single player game gets worse over time. The player count is totally irrelevant and if 2 years from launch nobody is playing it it doesn’t affect your experience at all.
This is a loss for Warhorse and a win for anyone that doesn’t need to play it now.
Same. The first one is one of my favorite games of all time and I’m really looking forward for the second game, but fuck denuvo so very very much.
Pre-order and cancel it, just to make a point!
Oh no, they’re putting denuvo on it? Man I loved the first game. I don’t think they even had anything close to a problem with piracy because it was a huge hit. Like, it not only did amazing for Warhorse Studios, but it made a huge tourism jump for the region.
That’s a bummer, and as much as I want to support KC:D II, I can’t support denuvo.
I also have stop being interested in games because of Denuvo. Understandable.
It might be a lessor experience but I’ve found its easier for some games that require a third party launcher or this shit, instead playing them on console.
