Donald Trump has vowed to deport millions and jail his enemies. To carry out that agenda, his administration will exploit America’s digital surveillance machine. Here are some steps you can take to evade it.
Too bad private email access is essentially dead. Any service not requiring another email or phone number to sign up gets quickly shut down. A casualty in the war on whistleblowers.
They do store it and have provided it to authorities in the past. In their defense, modern laws require you to hand over any data you have or get shut down. But they already knew that, yet choose to ask for it anyways knowing that they have to give it away if asked to.
As far as I understand it, this is only recovery emails and I think it explicitly has some sort of warning about this when setting it. This is different than the email prompt on sign up.
Too bad private email access is essentially dead. Any service not requiring another email or phone number to sign up gets quickly shut down. A casualty in the war on whistleblowers.
You can sign up for Proton mail without providing email or phone number, as far as I recall.
Nope. Try doing it through a Tor node.
tor isn’t email or phone
No shit, Sherlock.
you still can, it was a bug in past that they fixed long ago
it’s not a bug and it’s still not possible, it’s for tracking who created the account of course.
Try it now. Load up a tor tab in the Brave browser, and try signing up for an email without providing any info.
yes I just did, not brave but tor browser and I was able to create account
I just loaded up a Linux vm with Brave, and tried to sign up in a tor window. It requires a verification email to sign up.
Maybe you’re using a browser or OS that it’s tracking.
yeah I’m using tor browser, also don’t forget you can get fingerprinted even on tor
Totally. You should assume yours is being tracked if they’re not asking for verification.
email is never private, if its that sensitive it just shouldn’t go on the internet
Exactly; email is digital post cards and always has been.
Of course, that means I can encrypt a message and use someone else’s email account to send it :)
Proton requires email?
Not in my experience
Yes, tho it days it dosent store it, ill leave it up to you what you do whit that.
They do store it and have provided it to authorities in the past. In their defense, modern laws require you to hand over any data you have or get shut down. But they already knew that, yet choose to ask for it anyways knowing that they have to give it away if asked to.
i guess corpos gonna corpo folks… even the “good” ones
i did not realize you needed anything to create rando emails. i know google started that shit 5 years ago tho
I don’t think you are required to provide a secondary email, but you get less features without it.
i see… that is a dark pattern in of itself, why does proton need this info and why are they willing to incentiveze users sharing it.
How is offering users the option to set a backup/recovery email a dark pattern?
i misspoke
As far as I understand it, this is only recovery emails and I think it explicitly has some sort of warning about this when setting it. This is different than the email prompt on sign up.
I wouldn’t trust them not to store the initial one as well tbh. Nothing technically stops that and it’s in their interests.
I didn’t even know it asked for an email for sign up. I just remember the recovery email.