• SolDaMan@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Hello All, First time poster here. I would just like to say that i tried signing up for beehaw.org but they have some kind of purity test that reminds me of Reddit. Don’t ever sign up for beehaw, that is going to be one hell of a drama filled instance.

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      1 year ago

      Ironically all of the drama and complaining seems to be coming from instances outside of Beehaw, being dramatic and complaining about Beehaw. The content there is actually good.

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        Really it’s just drama caused by the platform not maturing yet. Beehaw’s reasons behind defederating from large instances like lemmy.world are valid, but it’s not like other instances made them do it. It’s a choice they made to be able to create the space they want in lieu of proper mod tools. Hope they realise it won’t be an overnight fix, and the longer they stick to their guns the greater the risk of their communities fizzling out, which would be a shame as I agree they are some of the best.

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        I noticed the same thing about North Korea. You never hear anyone complaining about dictatorship inside the country.

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      1 year ago

      I tried to sign up for beehaw… they rejected my application. Glad they did, I really enjoy lemmy.world!

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    1 year ago

    That’s great and imma let you finish but remember that decentralization is strength on the fediverse. Join or create other instances, join or create communities on other instances, thats our strength.

    On the fediverse, instances come and go. I’ve seen big instances go down either permanently or temporarily, and ive also seen big communities decide they’re turning off federation. The only way to be safe from that is to decentralize, so if something happens there’s still something worth doing on the fediverse.

    Besides that though, congratulations lemmy.world, I love to see the thrediverse Renaissance we’re in, and nothing but love for the folks running this instance and the folks participating on it.

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    1 year ago

    It’s awesome to see the growth, but as a small question, why don’t all the instances upgrade to version 0.18? Maybe that version isn’t stable enough?

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      1 year ago

      0.18 removed checks and balances to limit bot signups. lemmy.world won’t upgrade until this is in place.

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      To clarify the vague “checks and balances” statement that you were given, it was the captcha feature. It will be added back in 0.18.1

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        I wrote 2 short paragraphs for the Beehaw entry and a week later was denied. By that point I was already on Lemmy.World.

        I really don’t know what else they wanted me to say to be honest. I’d be interested in seeing some accepted applications but seems excessive.

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            Same for me. The only thing beehaw now has that interests me is the technology community, which seems fairly active. Other than that it died for me there. For what? Because they couldn’t deal with a few trolls? And they want their own walled garden for site applications?

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        Exactly! Or a waitlist like lemmy.ml. There’s probably going to be some issues with so many people in this instance, but it’s better than an echo chamber.

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          1 year ago

          Bitter about what? Beehaw is literally running a purity test in order to let you sign up. You sound much more bitter for me telling the truth than i am.

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        1 year ago

        how does censorship in federation work? for example, my account is in beehaw and I posted censored content on a less censored instance, will beehaw able to track it and block my account?

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      However is been just “spinning” on yrying to sign up for over a week for me…so I ended up going with lemm.ee instead

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    I joined world because it was the little one, with like 100 active users according to the stats on the signup page. Hmph.

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      1 year ago

      I joined lemmy.world on June 7th before it started to blow up. Crazy how much it has changed in 19 days.

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        The idea was to pick a smaller one to spread the load around and stop any one instance (at the time it looked like probably Beehaw or .ml) getting so big it became a “default” and thus accidentally centralising things and defeating the whole purpose of being here.

        I guess a lot of people had the same idea at roughly the same time as me though lol, and now we’re stuck with some serious unforseen federation issues due to sheer size. Therewasanattempt.

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          I think I read about future plans for being able to move an account to a different instance? I don’t know if that’s a possibility but I would be willing to move to keep things spread out, or create a new account if it was necessary. I know a lot of people wouldn’t want that hassle but I’m glad to have a forum alternative to reddit and probably enough people feel that way to help make this work well into the future.

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      I kind of feel we’re riding the sweet spot on size right now. Seems like a solid amount of content but we’ve not had so many new users that there’s been any sudden cultural shift.

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      Probably a couple hundred dedicated posters. So many 196 memes on my feed and I don’t even know what 196 stands for.

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        196 is the apartment of awesome!

        Welcome to the party!

        Share something while you’re here it’s the rule.

        We’ve got Blahaj, memes, LGBTQ+, and no tankies.

        We recently had to change venue due to reddit shenanigans, but the party don’t stop until it all stops

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    Also lemmy.world is extremely slow in pushing out messages to other instances, if at all. So leading the pack is not necessarily the best thing until you figure out scaling.

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      Yeah, I’ve been missing a ton of comment replies from lemmy.world and it’s frustrating. I am wondering if it’s because they’re still on 0.17.4 instead of 0.18.

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        Yeah I think that’s the main issue. Hopefully 18.1 can be released soon so they can upgrade too.

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      Yeah, they should really consider not accepting new users until that is figured out, honestly. There are plenty of servers out there that people can join at this point. Too much centralization in a decentralized system for my liking regardless of instance scaling.

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    Good. It is important to have different instances to distribute the load though. However, I hope there are not many people joining BeeHaw…

    • AFK BRB Chocolate@lemmy.world
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      I hope there are not many people joining BeeHaw…

      I don’t hope that, exactly, I just hope that the people who join understand what they’re getting (and, more importantly, what they aren’t). I fully support a community with a different goal than most, and their goal seems like a wholesome one. I personally think it’s doomed to failure, but I support them giving it a try. They’re barely part of the fediverse though.

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        There still some good instances that Beehaw is federated with, but my personal issue is that it feels very fragile. If a couple of bigots show up on other instances and the mods don’t delete their posts right away, will Beehaw defederate from them? There is a line between protecting your users and barring them from accessing anything you don’t approve of, and I think they need to figure out where they stand in regards to that line. Beehaw feels more like a small forum than a piece of something bigger.

        Defederating because of raiding, harassment, bots, etc is 100% understandable but it should not be done lightly.

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          I agree with you. And, honestly, I don’t think they did it lightly after reading their post about it. It’s just that they’re dedicated to creating a safe space for their members, and they couldn’t figure out how to do that with the mod tools they have and the influx of trolls from the open instances.

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      As long as people understand the circumstances of that instance I have absolutely no problem with people finding the place they belong.

      I just hope there are not new users who don’t realize they may not be federated with the larger community.

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        They’ve defederated from both lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works. They’re still a good community, but I don’t consider them part of the fediverse at this point.

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        They defederated with the some of the largest instances that have open registration due to the influx of people causing issues in their own communities and the lack of mod tools to address the issue. People are still pissy about it despite beehaw admins stating they will lift the defederation once lemmy mod tools improve…

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            Where did I say it was unsafe? I was pointing out the dishonesty people have been showing in regards to discussing the reason why beehaw chose to defederate.

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              Where did I say it was unsafe?

              Beehaw did imply that, the communication with Ruud was poor, and their “moderation” excuse is simply them acting in bad faith and you seem to agree with them.

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                They might have implied as such (I don’t personally think they did, but such an observation is objective.), but I myself didn’t in the post above, and to say I did is dishonest. For the record, I believe they did what they had to do with the limited options they currently have. And I did not like it. Hence why I made an account on here as well. It’s not a fascist regime, and I was pointing out the fact that the people acting like it is are being ridiculous. I directly witnessed the reasons why they defederated and quite ironically, an immense rise of interactions escalating precisely like this causing issues in their own communities and limited staffing to address such (especially towards the vulnerable minority communities beehaw wants to protect in ways reddit did not) in a short amount of time is quite exactly why they chose to defederate. Have a lovely day.

      • Ulu-Mulu-no-die@lemmy.world
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        Regardless of what happened, beehaw is not for everyone.

        They aim to be a safe haven for people that are afraid to be harassed for who they are. It’s a noble goal IMO but to achieve that, they have to moderate their instance quite heavily.

        If you’re not their target audience, you’ll find it too restrictive.

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      Looks like beehaw.org is shedding users. They’ve lost about a thousand users since defederating from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works last week. Maybe a bunch of people weren’t happy with that move.

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        since defederating from lemmy.world

        Oh. I think I maybe figured out why my subscriptions to beehaw communities are still pending.

        Dang it. Am I really going to have to write a thoughtful essay to get an account there? I hate writing. Thoughtfully, anyhow.

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            dbzer0 looks like the best lemmy.world alternative to me. but with how beehaws mods are acting I couldn’t care less about trying to access it

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      You are correct, but it at least shows that we are attracting more users (albeit, that doesn’t mean quality).

      I believe its a positive thing though, as it shows that the “normies” are seriously considering alternatives; outside of us niche, nerds here for the tech and the anti-corpo mindset.

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        I am decidedly not a niche nerd here for tech reasons. I just got pretty fed up with Reddit and it’s ridiculousness. I’m a 40 year old mom just here to cruise around the internet and find interesting things. So you are correct - the “normies” are starting to look for alternatives!

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        Just showed up here. We’ll see how long I stay, but hoping this will be my social media fix each morning. If there are enough folks who feel the same, it will be.

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          I’ve been using it for about a week now, and it already is.

          Of course, there’s a handful of subreddits that I miss and feel the urge to go back to every now and then, but I realize that there is enough content on Lemmy to satisfy me during my coffee breaks. And it’s enough to keep me from going back.

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            Same here. I go to Reddit for a specific thing and forget I’m not on lemmy, see some promoted post or whatever, and wonder who would even dare post that shit here, then remember and switch back.

            It’s been nice to be able to reclaim yet another part of my life from advertisements and incessant tracking.

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        Well said. A month ago, I couldn’t even imagine leaving reddit because there was hardly a viable alternative.

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      You are correct and Lemmy.World and others will experience growing pains and will have their own share of issues but the positive of this is that more users means more content.