The value of manned missions was propaganda which is why the Apolo mission was cancelled when it stopped getting TV ratings. Because getting humans on the moon didn’t actually deliver anything of much importance except those TV ratings.
“First game of golf on the moon” good job USA you did it meanwhile the USSR landed on Venus.
To be fair, we went back multiple times, and india just put a lunar lander on the south pole. Lots of valuable scientific data about our closest celestial neighbor has been discovered through these missions.
While I see what you mean, systematic scientific research about the moon, carried out over decades by multiple countries, however imperfect, is far different than the hubris of a bourgeois dipshit getting himself crushed at the bottom of the ocean, because he wanted to see a glorified cemetery and thought safety regulations were for liberal pinko cucks.
You can’t say it isn’t copium and then go into a bunch of sour grapes about how the moon is dumb and who cares. The whole world was pretty psyched about it at the time.
And it’s not like someone who reads this meme is going to come away with an accurate impression of the space race. People in this thread are talking about how “the US did this one thing and that’s’ it”
Yeah people were “psyched” about it but when they stopped being psyched and stopped watching - when they lost the tv ratings - the Apolo mission was canned.
How is what you said even vaguely a rebuttal of the idea it was showy propaganda with minimal scientific value?
Playing golf on the moon actually wasn’t an important thing to do. It’s cool, I’d like to do it… but it’s really pretty superficial. It’s a vanity propaganda piece and nothing else that’s why we didn’t go back because it doesn’t matter.
How is what you said even vaguely a rebuttal of the idea it was showy propaganda with minimal scientific value?
Why is such a rebuttal needed? The fact that the space race was about propaganda first and scientific and engineering advancement second is baked into the conversation. Does it apply more to the moon landing versus other parts?
The Apollo program lead to a ton of advancement in a bunch of different fields. So many spinoff technologies were created because of it. Also rovers go at a pretty slow pace, humans are more efficent for in-depth research.
let me use an analogy from software development. the soviets wrote all the foundational code libraries, and the american forked those libraries to build a shiny web application
The point is that national chauvinism in the US touts the moon landing as the ultimate victory, and that glosses over the accomplishments of the USSR, keeping people here ignorant of the potential of alternative political-economic systems, allowing propaganda to get away with lies like “communism means no innovation”
But you’re obviously not ignorant of that, you posted “COPIUM” just to be an ass
That’s a bit COPIUM tbh
Why?
Why even is getting a man on the moon important?
And if it was important why did we stop?
The value of manned missions was propaganda which is why the Apolo mission was cancelled when it stopped getting TV ratings. Because getting humans on the moon didn’t actually deliver anything of much importance except those TV ratings.
“First game of golf on the moon” good job USA you did it meanwhile the USSR landed on Venus.
I wouldn’t say putting a man on the moon isn’t important. It’s certainly very cool. But is it as important as satellites? Fuck no!
Like it’s cool in a “I’d like to take a submarine to visit the titanic” dare devil sense but why was it important?
How did it improve the world?
To be fair, we went back multiple times, and india just put a lunar lander on the south pole. Lots of valuable scientific data about our closest celestial neighbor has been discovered through these missions.
While I see what you mean, systematic scientific research about the moon, carried out over decades by multiple countries, however imperfect, is far different than the hubris of a bourgeois dipshit getting himself crushed at the bottom of the ocean, because he wanted to see a glorified cemetery and thought safety regulations were for liberal pinko cucks.
Fun fact: every crewed mission to the Moon in human history was done during the first presidential term of the Nixon regime.
You can’t say it isn’t copium and then go into a bunch of sour grapes about how the moon is dumb and who cares. The whole world was pretty psyched about it at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Space_Race
And it’s not like someone who reads this meme is going to come away with an accurate impression of the space race. People in this thread are talking about how “the US did this one thing and that’s’ it”
Yeah people were “psyched” about it but when they stopped being psyched and stopped watching - when they lost the tv ratings - the Apolo mission was canned.
How is what you said even vaguely a rebuttal of the idea it was showy propaganda with minimal scientific value?
Playing golf on the moon actually wasn’t an important thing to do. It’s cool, I’d like to do it… but it’s really pretty superficial. It’s a vanity propaganda piece and nothing else that’s why we didn’t go back because it doesn’t matter.
Why is such a rebuttal needed? The fact that the space race was about propaganda first and scientific and engineering advancement second is baked into the conversation. Does it apply more to the moon landing versus other parts?
And they did science on the moon.
your comment reduces to “it was of minor scientific value but a propaganda win” which is exactly what I’m saying.
It’s four sentences long, why are you reducing it? I was agreeing that this meme is cope. You’re the one who moved to that framing.
Edit: not an important argument
The Apollo program lead to a ton of advancement in a bunch of different fields. So many spinoff technologies were created because of it. Also rovers go at a pretty slow pace, humans are more efficent for in-depth research.
let me use an analogy from software development. the soviets wrote all the foundational code libraries, and the american forked those libraries to build a shiny web application
Well with the only diference that they both used closed source code. So both of them were on their own.
it’s not so clear cut as that
USA/USSR(later RF)/PRC have all collaborated on space science, both during and after the 1945-1991 cold war.
Well then even better! Humanity achived all of that by mutual colaboration!! How great!!
Science has no political views still in the cold war! Cool.
The point is that national chauvinism in the US touts the moon landing as the ultimate victory, and that glosses over the accomplishments of the USSR, keeping people here ignorant of the potential of alternative political-economic systems, allowing propaganda to get away with lies like “communism means no innovation”
But you’re obviously not ignorant of that, you posted “COPIUM” just to be an ass