• gayhitler420@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I suggested your activism to end the tipping system would be more effective if you organized with service workers, not for them. Of course, often there are many more pressing matters than taking on the myriad changes even one place has to go through to remove tipping, so you will likely find that no one is interested in doing a complex, difficult project just so you won’t have to tip and may in fact be hostile to you unless you’re very careful in how you present yourself.

    You know, because you selfishly view performing your duties under the flawed labor relation you take part in as optional.

    E: I completely forgot to pound this point home and it’s a prime example: if you don’t tip, you’re a bad person!

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      1 year ago

      Lol just dripping with entitlement. I do tip, which is why I know the associated cost and how much more expensive servers have successfully guilted us into making our restaurant experience in the u.s.

      I’m finishing up a vacation to an island nation in South East Asia and this afternoon I had some amazing ramen and thought of you. I walked in and ordered from a kiosk and then a few minutes later grabbed my food from the order drop, made by employees who earn a living wage and do not expect tips for doing their job as a means to try to earn more than the kitchen staff. The food was amazing and despite the markup of being on an island was cheaper than I could get it from the restaurant in my home town after the server tax.

      Weird how nowhere in that engagement did i have some entitled person expecting a generous markup on my meal for bringing it and maintaining my drink. In fact thats been the experience this entire trip, even in instances where there was a server involved. Pleasant people who earn a living wage and do their work just like the rest of the staff in the restaurant. When it was appropriate we left more, the difference is it was a reward for excellent service, not just showing up.

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        1 year ago

        So wait, the person who correctly recognizes your antisocial behavior and your server who expects you to uphold the expectations of your dining interactions are the entitled people here, not you who feels like you shouldn’t have to even though you know it’s expected and that you’re only harming your server when you don’t?

        You are describing feeling entitled to receive the servers (and kitchen, some places split tips) labor for a lower rate and justifying it because you don’t feel like the social system that labor relation exists under is right.

        It’s not right, but that doesn’t make you not a bad person when you don’t tip.

        To go a little further: you describe servers doing all these things themselves, guilting everyone into paying more, expecting (all by themselves. as if everyone you dine with doesn’t expect you to tip too!) to be paid for their work. At no point do you place blame with or advocate taking action against the forces and structures that uphold tipped wages as a system. If you had an analysis that didn’t hinge on blaming the server for wanting to be paid I could look past it, but it’s germane here as another example of your entitlement to their work for a reduced rate.

        Out of curiosity, what was this south Asian island nation?