What if child porn is made without hurting the kid? Isn’t it still child porn?
Do you see how stupid this sounds yet?
And about the video game thing? Drop it because even if you do go there you kinda just prove my point. Humans have done combat sports for how long now? And the reason you play it in game is to simulate doing it in real life because YOU WANT TO DO IT! but what you’re missing is the when and where part. War has a place and so does self defense and combat sports. What place does fucking a child have? You’re looking at the drawing because you want to fuck little kids. You would play the game for the same exact reason but riddle me this……. When is that behavior EVER justified?
Me playing cod because I think combat is cool and can protect my family has a valid place in society. You fucking kids doesn’t.
What if child porn is made without hurting the kid? Isn’t it still child porn?
Do you see how stupid this sounds yet?
And about the video game thing? Drop it because even if you do go there you kinda just prove my point. Humans have done combat sports for how long now? And the reason you play it in game is to simulate doing it in real life because YOU WANT TO DO IT! but what you’re missing is the when and where part. War has a place and so does self defense and combat sports. What place does fucking a child have? You’re looking at the drawing because you want to fuck little kids. You would play the game for the same exact reason but riddle me this……. When is that behavior EVER justified?
Me playing cod because I think combat is cool and can protect my family has a valid place in society. You fucking kids doesn’t.
Going back up the argument chain, if it’s not hurting anyone, the only problem (in your words) would be the temptation aspect, and here I fail to see how a child sex simulation leading to the consumption/creation of CSEM would be any different than a war crimes simulation in leading to the consumption/creation of war crimes, for example.
The difference, again, is that given the correct conditions combat is justified. The story of the game could matter much less because you could just simply enjoy the combat. And there is more than one reason someone could enjoy combat outside of “I want to randomly shoot people” and I clearly stated a few of them. I’ll ask again. When is it EVER SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE TO BE ATTRACTED TO AND FUCK KIDS?!
Ah so basically if someone gets kids to have sex and record it and “none of them get hurt” then I guess it’s okay then right?
Justifying something that majority of society see as a problem in YOUR mind doesn’t suddenly make it socially acceptable and okay……… y’all still sick and most of society would still agree that this shit is wrong.
Ah so basically if someone gets kids to have sex and record it and “none of them get hurt” then I guess it’s okay then right?
Justifying something that majority of society see as a problem in YOUR mind doesn’t suddenly make it socially acceptable and okay……… y’all still sick and most of society would still agree that this shit is wrong.
Having this being done specifically for recording purposes would definitely fall within the “exploitation” part of CSEM.
I think we can both agree there’s no place for either child sexual exploitation or war crimes in real life - the popularity of an idea has no relation to how valid it is or should be.
If someone plays a super realistic violent video game, does that mean that the person actively participating in shooting and killing depictions of people wants to do those things in real life?
Possibly and again, given the correct conditions, this may be acceptable. When is it ever acceptable to be attracted to little kids? When is it ever acceptable to fuck a little kid?
You’re assuming an attraction to kids, which is not always the case for people viewing this sort of fictional content. Some people like to project onto the loli/shota/cub in the scenario and imagine themselves being dominated by a larger dominant figure, and there are other reasons too. You are assuming people’s motives entirely.
For the video game thing: you mention given the correct conditions, this may be acceptable. This seems kind of like a leap in logic, do you genuinely think the majority of people playing violent video games have a justifiable reason for doing so? I don’t know any person who plays video games for a “socially acceptable reason” also, what does it matter what someone does in the privacy of their own home if they are not harming any real person?
Ancient rome, for example. Petronius (~27-66AD) depicts in the Satyricon a scene where women are clappping hands to a seven year old child being raped in public.
Overton windows don’t stay constant within a society.
What if it’s made into a simulation instead - does the argument no longer apply?
What if child porn is made without hurting the kid? Isn’t it still child porn?
Do you see how stupid this sounds yet?
And about the video game thing? Drop it because even if you do go there you kinda just prove my point. Humans have done combat sports for how long now? And the reason you play it in game is to simulate doing it in real life because YOU WANT TO DO IT! but what you’re missing is the when and where part. War has a place and so does self defense and combat sports. What place does fucking a child have? You’re looking at the drawing because you want to fuck little kids. You would play the game for the same exact reason but riddle me this……. When is that behavior EVER justified?
Me playing cod because I think combat is cool and can protect my family has a valid place in society. You fucking kids doesn’t.
Going back up the argument chain, if it’s not hurting anyone, the only problem (in your words) would be the temptation aspect, and here I fail to see how a child sex simulation leading to the consumption/creation of CSEM would be any different than a war crimes simulation in leading to the consumption/creation of war crimes, for example.
The difference, again, is that given the correct conditions combat is justified. The story of the game could matter much less because you could just simply enjoy the combat. And there is more than one reason someone could enjoy combat outside of “I want to randomly shoot people” and I clearly stated a few of them. I’ll ask again. When is it EVER SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE TO BE ATTRACTED TO AND FUCK KIDS?!
Ah so basically if someone gets kids to have sex and record it and “none of them get hurt” then I guess it’s okay then right?
Justifying something that majority of society see as a problem in YOUR mind doesn’t suddenly make it socially acceptable and okay……… y’all still sick and most of society would still agree that this shit is wrong.
Having this being done specifically for recording purposes would definitely fall within the “exploitation” part of CSEM.
I think we can both agree there’s no place for either child sexual exploitation or war crimes in real life - the popularity of an idea has no relation to how valid it is or should be.
Yup but pretending as if that doesn’t mean you actually want to do it does………. So this is pedo logic? Got it.
If someone plays a super realistic violent video game, does that mean that the person actively participating in shooting and killing depictions of people wants to do those things in real life?
Possibly and again, given the correct conditions, this may be acceptable. When is it ever acceptable to be attracted to little kids? When is it ever acceptable to fuck a little kid?
You’re assuming an attraction to kids, which is not always the case for people viewing this sort of fictional content. Some people like to project onto the loli/shota/cub in the scenario and imagine themselves being dominated by a larger dominant figure, and there are other reasons too. You are assuming people’s motives entirely.
For the video game thing: you mention given the correct conditions, this may be acceptable. This seems kind of like a leap in logic, do you genuinely think the majority of people playing violent video games have a justifiable reason for doing so? I don’t know any person who plays video games for a “socially acceptable reason” also, what does it matter what someone does in the privacy of their own home if they are not harming any real person?
Ancient rome, for example. Petronius (~27-66AD) depicts in the Satyricon a scene where women are clappping hands to a seven year old child being raped in public.
Overton windows don’t stay constant within a society.
Find it hella funny that none of you degenerates can come up with a valid argument for this