China was good once but they’ve betrayed communism so they need another revolution but it cant be supported by western powers and also cant be done by the current Chinese government so basically we need regime change but not that kind-
-China uplifted 800+ million people from extreme poverty. This is an ongoing campaign that actively sends cadres to impoverished communities in even the most rural backwaters to ensure that even the most overlooked people in China aren’t left behind as the country prospers.
-Over 90%+ of Chinese people trust and are satisfied with the CPC at a federal level. Something like 10% of the population is directly involved as Party members themselves. The Chinese government actually responds to the wishes of the general populace in tangible policy; the Cultural Revolution, switch to pragmatic Dengism, and now distributing the winnings of Dengism are massive pivots that coincided with public opinion. Down to smaller examples: when the people wanted COVID lockdown, they got lockdown (barely 10s of thousands dying while America was breaking into a million), and when they were sick of lockdown, the lockdown lifted. This is evidence of healthy democracy, and many Chinese common people would agree.
-China regularly imprisons and even executes billionaires, not just for crimes against the Chinese government, but for crimes against Chinese workers.
-China has a growing structure of unions in all industries; disputes between workers and employers are skewed in favor of workers.
-Emphasis on equality for women has been around since the 50s, and they are nearly at 50% female membership in many instances of the CPC.
-China has pivoted towards green energy solutions and has taken more tangible steps towards this than any other peer nation in the world. Already they have significantly less per-capita AND lifetime emissions than the U.S. despite still being a developing country in a hostile, competitive world. They have the biggest and best high speed rail network that the Chinese people use incredibly cheaply and reliably.
-China has the fastest growing middle class and the largest percentage of international vacationers in the world.
-The CPC regularly fights to uplift and protect racial and religious minorities within its borders; similar behavior can be seen in how they do not tolerate racial incidents when Chinese and African workers work together overseas.
-China has helped uplift dozens of vulnerable countries with the Belt & Road Initiative, not to mention similar development projects, low interest loans that they have forgiven billions of.
-More and more industries are nationalized every year, in accordance with the strategy of Dengism: once the industry is sufficiently developed and the black magic of capitalism is no longer needed to grow it, it is exorcised.
-China has reforested and protected more natural habitats than any peer nation.
-Dengism was PREDICTED to cause an influx of capitalist power and corruption which would have to be combatted in the future; indeed, as soon as the goals of Dengism were sufficiently secure, Hu and particularly Xi began a massive anti-corruption and capitalist curtailing campaign which has uprooted, punished, and routed those who had used Dengism to opportunistically enrich themselves.
The list can literally go on and on and on. Tackling the tutoring industry and the crazy school pressure, constantly pushing for peace and harmony between nations, compassionate rehabilitation of fascists in Xinjiang, openly taking responsibility for failures of the Cultural Revolution and the Greap Leap Forward, taking and leveling golf courses from the rich and replacing them with cheap housing, the stark contrast of TikTok in the West versus TikTok in China, they got pandas to fuck (facts)–I am not a proletarian encyclopedia so my knowledge has its limits, but everywhere you look in China in 2023, you see evidence that the core of the country NEVER abandoned socialism and everything that happened in Dengism happened perfectly according to plan for the winnings of today to happen.
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It’s not even a matter of reluctant critical support, China is literally the best country in the world right now. They undertook Dengism knowing full well they were flying close to the sun in a desperate move to try and catch up, infiltrate the capitalist world, and become invulnerable for it, and it WORKED. I would have understood fear of it all going awry and the long-term socialist aspirations of the strategy being long forgotten…if we were still in, like, the 20th century. But, particularly in the last few decades, China has clearly illustrated that they are socialist and they have the raw, tangible evidence to prove it. Their overarching behavior is absolutely, fundamentally impossible for even a cynical capitalist country giving out scraps of social democracy to retain power.
Could they be even better? Sure, nobody is perfect. But they continually improve in every metric that matters, every passing day. Ask yourself, what would you have done as a massive, impoverished, undeveloped socialist country that the West is foaming at the mouth to destroy? Dengism is literally the most perfect example of socialist ingenuity, it is an actual example of 5D chess–not just in theory, THEY PULLED IT OFF. And the working class of China–nay, the entire world–is better of because of it, in the today.
You should stop listening to Western leftists who cry that it was an abandonment of socialism when the evidence is clear that you should have taken the stated strategy of Dengism at face value; not every difficult political decision is duplicitious evil, like we are used to here in the West.
The superiority of the socialist system is demonstrated, in the final analysis, by faster and greater development of those forces than under the capitalist system.
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oh my god hahaha
Oh shit, I really do believe it
Epic
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For both of you, a sample platter of facts:
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-China uplifted 800+ million people from extreme poverty. This is an ongoing campaign that actively sends cadres to impoverished communities in even the most rural backwaters to ensure that even the most overlooked people in China aren’t left behind as the country prospers.
-Over 90%+ of Chinese people trust and are satisfied with the CPC at a federal level. Something like 10% of the population is directly involved as Party members themselves. The Chinese government actually responds to the wishes of the general populace in tangible policy; the Cultural Revolution, switch to pragmatic Dengism, and now distributing the winnings of Dengism are massive pivots that coincided with public opinion. Down to smaller examples: when the people wanted COVID lockdown, they got lockdown (barely 10s of thousands dying while America was breaking into a million), and when they were sick of lockdown, the lockdown lifted. This is evidence of healthy democracy, and many Chinese common people would agree.
-China regularly imprisons and even executes billionaires, not just for crimes against the Chinese government, but for crimes against Chinese workers.
-China has a growing structure of unions in all industries; disputes between workers and employers are skewed in favor of workers.
-Emphasis on equality for women has been around since the 50s, and they are nearly at 50% female membership in many instances of the CPC.
-China has pivoted towards green energy solutions and has taken more tangible steps towards this than any other peer nation in the world. Already they have significantly less per-capita AND lifetime emissions than the U.S. despite still being a developing country in a hostile, competitive world. They have the biggest and best high speed rail network that the Chinese people use incredibly cheaply and reliably.
-China has the fastest growing middle class and the largest percentage of international vacationers in the world.
-The CPC regularly fights to uplift and protect racial and religious minorities within its borders; similar behavior can be seen in how they do not tolerate racial incidents when Chinese and African workers work together overseas.
-China has helped uplift dozens of vulnerable countries with the Belt & Road Initiative, not to mention similar development projects, low interest loans that they have forgiven billions of.
-More and more industries are nationalized every year, in accordance with the strategy of Dengism: once the industry is sufficiently developed and the black magic of capitalism is no longer needed to grow it, it is exorcised.
-China has reforested and protected more natural habitats than any peer nation.
-Dengism was PREDICTED to cause an influx of capitalist power and corruption which would have to be combatted in the future; indeed, as soon as the goals of Dengism were sufficiently secure, Hu and particularly Xi began a massive anti-corruption and capitalist curtailing campaign which has uprooted, punished, and routed those who had used Dengism to opportunistically enrich themselves.
The list can literally go on and on and on. Tackling the tutoring industry and the crazy school pressure, constantly pushing for peace and harmony between nations, compassionate rehabilitation of fascists in Xinjiang, openly taking responsibility for failures of the Cultural Revolution and the Greap Leap Forward, taking and leveling golf courses from the rich and replacing them with cheap housing, the stark contrast of TikTok in the West versus TikTok in China, they got pandas to fuck (facts)–I am not a proletarian encyclopedia so my knowledge has its limits, but everywhere you look in China in 2023, you see evidence that the core of the country NEVER abandoned socialism and everything that happened in Dengism happened perfectly according to plan for the winnings of today to happen.
.
It’s not even a matter of reluctant critical support, China is literally the best country in the world right now. They undertook Dengism knowing full well they were flying close to the sun in a desperate move to try and catch up, infiltrate the capitalist world, and become invulnerable for it, and it WORKED. I would have understood fear of it all going awry and the long-term socialist aspirations of the strategy being long forgotten…if we were still in, like, the 20th century. But, particularly in the last few decades, China has clearly illustrated that they are socialist and they have the raw, tangible evidence to prove it. Their overarching behavior is absolutely, fundamentally impossible for even a cynical capitalist country giving out scraps of social democracy to retain power.
Could they be even better? Sure, nobody is perfect. But they continually improve in every metric that matters, every passing day. Ask yourself, what would you have done as a massive, impoverished, undeveloped socialist country that the West is foaming at the mouth to destroy? Dengism is literally the most perfect example of socialist ingenuity, it is an actual example of 5D chess–not just in theory, THEY PULLED IT OFF. And the working class of China–nay, the entire world–is better of because of it, in the today.
You should stop listening to Western leftists who cry that it was an abandonment of socialism when the evidence is clear that you should have taken the stated strategy of Dengism at face value; not every difficult political decision is duplicitious evil, like we are used to here in the West.