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    Yeah, cuz vax cards, masks, lock-downs, “necessary employees”, and attacks on constitutional rights is all republicans

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        No, but trying to take people’s rights away over a virus with a <2% death rate is

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            They have the right to seek whatever medical interventions they desire, they even have the right to stand 6 feet away from me if they want, they just don’t have the right to force anything on me I don’t want for myself. It’s called liberalism, something the left has forgotten about

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                One again, less than 2% death rate. We didn’t take it seriously, we overblew it and caused mass panic for no good reason

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                    And how many more committed suicide during lock downs? How many children’s learning was negatively affect by distance learning? How many developed eye-strain staring at screens all day? How many who were going to die anyways had to die alone cuz of social distancing? And you can look up for yourself the developmental issues masking had on children, who rely on facial recognition to learn how to function in the world and communicate with others.

                    And all those who died of covid were likely going to die of covid no matter what because they had comorbities, were elderly, or were obese and no amount of masking, vaxxing, or distancing was going to stop it because none of those things have been shown to stop the spread of the virus anyways.

                    Its clear you’ve spent the last 3 years with your head buried in the sand

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                  COVID-19 had the 5th worst death toll of any pandemic in human history, and is in the top 10 of global population lost. And that was with modern medicine and (with some Republican political exceptions) reasonably aggressive global response.

                  COVID-19 was bad, worse than most people seem to remember. I’ve got a pandemic-trained MCE expert in my family. Everyone saw it coming when they saw the numbers, and it happened worse than expected. Hospitals overflowing capacity from just critical cases. Tent hospitals being built. They fucking activated the mass-grave contracts to store the bodies. For the first time in nearly a century. Bet you didn’t know that. OEMS doesn’t publish actions like that because they don’t want to cause further panic. It comes through a private email to paramedics (and, fwiw I thought this part silly, sent under a pseudonym that only people in the field would recognize)

                  For the record (not that I think you actually care about facts, but I’m putting this up there for neutral observers), the deadliness of a pandemic is not primarily driven by its death rate. Only an ignorant person would look to that first. A virus with a 0.1% death rate could end humankind. Many viruses with high death rates have less of an impact. Potentially more important factors are the spread rate (influenced by the incubation rate and contagiousness window), and immunity rates (both inherent immunity and acquired immunity). That COVID-19 was a COVID family of illness (cold family, no known cures, treatments, or immunization paths) made it worse.

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                    Just look at Florida’s and Texas’ response compared to New York and California. Those “Republican exceptions” had better results from not locking down. And yeah, there’s an argument to made for population density especially in places like NYC, but let’s also not forget that in NYC, the governor was sticking covid patients in elderly homes and upping the death rate. If the masks and vaxxes make you city rats feel safe then more power to you, but there was KO reason that stuff needed to be part of a global response

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            Yes actually, I wear one by choice and for my wife’s peace of mind, but I think its a stupid thing to be fined for

            That being said, the seatbelt analogy is a piss-poor metaphor for what was going on during the pandemic as seatbelts do not have the negative side effects that masking, isolating, and the vax have been shown to have

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              negative side effects that masking, isolating, and the vax have been shown to have

              Such as?

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                Do your own research like the rest of us, don’t ask me to do it for you. You’ve had 3 years, its not my fault you spent it with your head buried in the sand.

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                  Lmao. My man I have, and I’m asking you to clarify because I have not seen any of these so-called negative effects from wearing masks and taking the vaccine. Such a cop out answer. It’s almost always a sign that you are talking out your ass if you aren’t willing to clearly state your point.

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                    You’re not asking me to clarify, you’re asking me to collect links for you cuz you’re too lazy to get out of your little echo chamber where all your favorite publications jerk each other off and promote false narratives. You’re inability to branch out and interact with information that makes you uncomfortable is not my problem. Once again, you’ve had 3 years, there is 3 years worth of data out there for you to look at, you just have to avoid clicking on anything by CNN and the like. I’m not gonna act as your personal link aggregator

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                  Funny how you don’t have a real rebuttal so you’ve resorted to childish drawings of pig shit

                  “Funny how you don’t have a real rebuttal so you’ve resorted to childish drawings of pig shit”

                  You realize, to the rest of us, the far-right “do the research” bullshit is actually worse and more childish than actual drawings of pig shit, right?

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                    Doing you’re own research and learning to filter out bs is more childish than following narratives pushed by MSM like sheep and responding with pictures of feces when presented with an opposing point of view? Says more about you than it does about me

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            The right to infect and kill my neighbors so we don’t have to get our cheeks a little sweaty from a mask. Obviously.

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            tried

            Though I would argue free speech and freedom of press took a significant hit during the pandemic

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              Okay, how was there an attempt at taking away both of these things? Because I can’t think of any. Also if free press took a hit during the pandemic no one told Fox News because they’ve been spouting their vile lies the entire time lmal

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                Yeah, one major establishment news outlet made it through, great example from you there bud. Meanwhile, the literal inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology had to go on Joe rogan just to make factual claims in a calm, non-sensational manner, and he still nearly lost his job and medical license

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                  I think it’s a great example because they’re the single biggest source of conservative misinformation lmao. If the press was being silenced by some left-wing conspiracy don’t you think Fox would have been a major target for them??

                  Ignoring the fact that Rogan is an ignorant dumbass who does absolutely no fact checking, did Malone back any of his claims up or were they all just from his mouth? Because Malone was not the “literal inventor” of mRNA vaccines. It was a huge collaborative effort that he played a part in along with hundreds of other researchers over decades. But you already know this cause you do your own research instead of just taking people’s word for it right?

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                    I think if there was left wing conspiracy against media they would want to have an establishment right wing media in their pocket to stoke division. However, I don’t think there is a left wing conspiracy against propaganda. I think there is a government wide conspiracy against media and that’s why establishment media continues to exist on both sides of the aisle. That being said, it was primarily leftist sheep who were the ones begging for government to shut down conservative voices or any voices that disagreed even the slightest with the narrative being pushed by left wing medias during the height of the pandemic.

                    And yes, almost everything that happens is a collaboration between multiple people. Good on you for figuring that out. That doesn’t mean that there are hierarchical structures within any organization that accomplishes anything. I don’t think anybody believes that Dr. Malone invented the mRNA vaccine by himself in his basement with a toy chem kit from amazon. That doesn’t mean he didn’t spearhead the project

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              I saw plenty of jackasses using their free speech to spread misinformation, like the vaccines not working and the mask not being necessary.

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                Except that’s not true at all and if you were capable of getting out of your own echo chamber you would realize that. The only way the masks would have had any real effect is of we were all running around wearing N95s, but we weren’t. People were running around in cloth masks because its easier to make fashion statements out of them. And natural immunity has been shown multiple times to give far better immunity than the vax. Even early on, studies coming out of Israel and Ireland showed that

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          You do know it was only a <2% death rate because of the pandemic response, right?

          The masks, the stay at home, the vaccinations were necessary because they worked.

          It would have been even lower if jackasses like you didn’t think they knew more about a virus than the actual scientists who dedicated their lives to researching stuff like that.

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            You do know it was only a <2℅ death rate because of the pandemic response, right?

            Flat out false, read something other than CNN