• AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    53
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    9 months ago

    You’d sooner squeeze blood from a stone than shame from a capitalist.

    They’re incapable of shame.

    • Schnitzel Bub@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      He’s not an idiot because he’s a capitalist. It’s that capitalism encourages the idiotic type to try shit out, because those are the ones with most self-confidence. They’re mostly also the least likely to really consider the responsibilities such as: your employees depend on you now, if you fuck up majorly, you’ll screw over all your employees’ lives, potentially their families too, potentially irreversibly

      So yea, the function of “CEO” naturally attracts cretins.

      And God forbid such a moron’s business becomes even slightly successful, because guess who suddenly feels smarter, less accountable for his terrible character flaws and toxic behavior? That’s right. Usually, businesses which make it are mostly just lucky. But you can’t explain this to cpt douchebag, he thinks he’s magically smarter and better at life than anyone.

      And the better the company does, the more the Boss will indulge in his dysfunction and craziness.

      That’s why, statistically bosses are highly probable to be the scourge of humanity. It’s not just capitalism. it’s just the toxic mix of luck, power and stupidity - all three combined with whichever the boss’ character flaws and weaknesses are. Only in capitalism, power usually takes the form of money, that’s all. But the issue is even deeper with people.

      (i hate capitalism too, but I think blaming it all on capitalism and calling it a day isn’t gonna address such a fundamental issue with people. I come from an ex communist country and that shit is just equally toxic if brought to it’s extreme version - and for the same reasons to do with the human psyche too.)

  • SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    It’s basic game theory and a race to the bottom. They either come together to set a bottom, do it by threat of violence or by law.

    Game theory pay workers less pay workers more
    Go easy on workers outcompeted outcompeted
    Squeeze workers profit outcompeted
    • Doubledee [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      9 months ago

      Right, people miss this but its literally one of the basic ideas of capitalist production. Mom and Pop might be nice people but the market WILL destroy them if they don’t participate in the most cutthroat practices to stay competitive. Forces are at play that supercede the morality of any actor.

  • son_named_bort@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    9 months ago

    Bosses everywhere: So you’re saying we should get rid of the pizza party? Good idea, that’ll save the company money!

  • setInner234@feddit.de
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    9 months ago

    What I find interesting is that reigning in abuse at the behest of bosses / management / leadership would solve a gigantic number of problems in today’s society. ‘Nobody wants to work anymore’ is actually ‘nobody wants to be treated like shit by power-hungry psychopaths’. BUT, it is so difficult / impossible to change the intrinsic human assholification of anyone with power (see Stanford prison experiment), that companies will try anything else.

      • setInner234@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        This is utterly fascinating. Thank you for providing this link. Funnily enough, my thoughts immediately went to “is Milgram any better?”. Seems like he might be, somewhat. The question for me then becomes:

        • can people be trusted with authority, on a general level? Are there studies to prove / disprove the adage that power corrupts / that people with personality disorders such as psychopathy or narcissism seek out (or thrive in, or are promoted to) positions of power?

        Thank you again, I shall revise my opinion from now on and seek out more studies on the matter.

  • buh [any]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    9 months ago

    there’s a boss somewhere who sees this and reacts by bringing flowers to the break room

  • Adalast@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    9 months ago

    This is all well and good, but remember that stereotypically they think that the latter is ok too.

  • PatFusty@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    Is it really a hard pill to swallow though? Im pretty sure everyone except sociopaths are onboard with this line of thinking

    • Schnitzel Bub@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      It is a hard thing to accept for the shitty bosses I thought.

      Tbh, I also considered there’s better memes to fit the idea but I haven’t found any right away. Considering it’s had decent amount of upvotes, if you like the idea but think the format ruins it, steal my idea and put it in the better format, there’s nothing wrong with that. Just wait 1w so people won’t be annoyed by the repetition. Maybe it’ll do better with your spin on it.

  • D3FNC [any]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    9 months ago

    I grew up in a trailer park and I would like to point out that while everyone bitches about the pizza, every single one of those marriages are still somehow going strong

  • GiveMemes@jlai.lu
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    9 months ago

    Wow, these meme boards fucking blow

    Can we focus on funny instead of making a point?

          • GiveMemes@jlai.lu
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            9 months ago

            This was referencing the fact that it was a carbon copy of somebody else’s comment that replied to me hours before you. Have you tried using your eyes before pressing the reply button?

            • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              9 months ago
              1. I agreed with you
              2. Your comment was useless
              3. So was mine
              4. Do you know how Lemmy works? I can’t see comments from users on instances that are defederated from my home instance. My reply to your first comment in this thread is the only one I see. If there are other replies, they were made by users I’m defederated from.
      • GiveMemes@jlai.lu
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        9 months ago

        That would be a hell of a lot easier if the only memes upvoted weren’t blatant agendaposts

        Fair enough tho