There’s a whole culture in America celebrating carelessness, doing poorly in school, and idolizing people who got successful doing nothing except breaking the rules
Back in the 80s and 90s this was already a thing. Being a “rebel” and being “too cool for school.” If you did too well at school you were a nerd and that had some social stigma.
Maybe today it is worse with social media and online gaming.
But then again, how do you force someone to “learn” and not “memorize”? The way stuff is taught could definitely use improvements, but it’s still very hard to make sure something has actually been learned.
It’s very difficult, possibly one of the biggest difficulties facing people. I’m definitely not qualified to give an answer, but we should pay students more and give them more freedom to figure out what works for every child.
we should pay students more and give them more freedom to figure out what works for every child.
I’m assuming you meant teachers (?)
Anyway yeah, imo one of the biggest issues right now is that you can’t expect one person to teach well to 20+ students simultaneously. My best learning experiences in school have been with small classes, where the teacher could actually focus on people who understood less and ensure everyone got at least the very minimum required from an argument before moving to the following one.
It’s interesting, and I think we can examine college for an answer actually. I don’t remember half the things I was taught in my technical classes. I don’t know anything aside from basic calculus anymore. But what I do understand are the underlying concepts, even if I don’t know the calculations anymore.
That’s what we need to target, somehow. I don’t know how though, honestly. You need some sort of repetition, and what at have now doesn’t work. Maybe if we tie in more real life examples?
Because internet didn’t existed back then to congregate and enable people to say whatever they want.
Before you could be that stupid, but probably would be the only one in your neighborhood so any stupid thoughts would be kept to yourself until you eventually move on, but now if you think earth is shaped like a half eaten donnut, you bet your ass you will find a community of other weirdos with that same belief and they will feed themselves more stupidness and become louder and louder.
Honestly I’m one example myself, when I was a teenager back in the 90s/2000s I really liked those Japanese emo style music(Visual kei), but since no one else around me had ever heard about it and no one was interested on it I had no one to talk about it, then I just moved on, but if it was today I have no idea what kind of creepy teen I would have become, honestly for me it was a blessing haha
We had these classes and people are still stupid. Your point?
There’s a whole culture in America celebrating carelessness, doing poorly in school, and idolizing people who got successful doing nothing except breaking the rules
Back in the 80s and 90s this was already a thing. Being a “rebel” and being “too cool for school.” If you did too well at school you were a nerd and that had some social stigma.
Maybe today it is worse with social media and online gaming.
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People are stupid because they didn’t (and weren’t forced to) learn in these classes.
Oh they were forced, that’s the issue. That ensures knowledge exits your brain as soon as the exam is over.
That’s not learning, that’s just memorization.
Oh that’s what you meant, sorry.
But then again, how do you force someone to “learn” and not “memorize”? The way stuff is taught could definitely use improvements, but it’s still very hard to make sure something has actually been learned.
It’s very difficult, possibly one of the biggest difficulties facing people. I’m definitely not qualified to give an answer, but we should pay students more and give them more freedom to figure out what works for every child.
I’m assuming you meant teachers (?)
Anyway yeah, imo one of the biggest issues right now is that you can’t expect one person to teach well to 20+ students simultaneously. My best learning experiences in school have been with small classes, where the teacher could actually focus on people who understood less and ensure everyone got at least the very minimum required from an argument before moving to the following one.
Oops, yeah, meant teachers
It’s interesting, and I think we can examine college for an answer actually. I don’t remember half the things I was taught in my technical classes. I don’t know anything aside from basic calculus anymore. But what I do understand are the underlying concepts, even if I don’t know the calculations anymore.
That’s what we need to target, somehow. I don’t know how though, honestly. You need some sort of repetition, and what at have now doesn’t work. Maybe if we tie in more real life examples?
If these classes aren’t required then we would have an Idiocracy (even more so than what we currently have)
They cheated to get grades.
People have always been stupid, but not like this. Not what we have going on today
Because internet didn’t existed back then to congregate and enable people to say whatever they want.
Before you could be that stupid, but probably would be the only one in your neighborhood so any stupid thoughts would be kept to yourself until you eventually move on, but now if you think earth is shaped like a half eaten donnut, you bet your ass you will find a community of other weirdos with that same belief and they will feed themselves more stupidness and become louder and louder.
Honestly I’m one example myself, when I was a teenager back in the 90s/2000s I really liked those Japanese emo style music(Visual kei), but since no one else around me had ever heard about it and no one was interested on it I had no one to talk about it, then I just moved on, but if it was today I have no idea what kind of creepy teen I would have become, honestly for me it was a blessing haha
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