• zephyreks@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Except that’s exactly what you’re calling for? You gave evidence of (presumably a Chinese telecom) stealing T-Mobile testing equipment as a reason for the sanctions.

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      1 year ago

      That robot was stolen by Huawei, which is heavily subsidized by the CCP.

      But what I have said repeatedly, regardless of your presumptive tangents, is that state level actions make a state responsible, and in the examples I gave, a hostile state has ownership ties to companies stealing energy production data and military data.

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        1 year ago

        But… you don’t consider T-Mobile, Apple, Intel, or Microsoft to be American state-sponsored companies despite their hundreds of billions in subsidies and tax incentives?

        Odd.

        The recent CHIPS act gave Intel what, like $20 billion in subsidies. Guess what? That’s what governments do to stimulate economic growth.

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            1 year ago

            Huawei, which is heavily subsidized by the CCP.

            This statement is literally irrelevant because, guess what, every reasonable country subsidizes their domestic industries. I’ve proven that and you’re unwilling to accept that state-owned enterprises (which exist, by the way) are different from private companies.

            I’ll help you out: Intel is a private company. Amtrak is not. Alibaba is a private company, CRRC is not. Huawei is a private company, CNPC is not.

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              1 year ago

              I’m sure everyone is very proud of you for repeating things that I stated previously in this thread and pretending they are your argument.

              Wait right here, I’ll find someone who can slow clap for you(I feel like you’ll be able to understand the clap better that way).

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                  1 year ago

                  An argument against you repeating what I said and agreeing with me?

                  No, I stand by what I said and you parroted.

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                    1 year ago

                    so… you really do have no argument, huh? You claim that taking state subsidies makes a company state-sponsored.

                    I claim that that’s stupid, because it means that Intel and Microsoft would be considered state-sponsored enterprises.