Harping on people to get married from up in the ivory tower fails to engage with reality of life in the dating trenches.

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      They aren’t shooting up night clubs, marauding through cities, or lashing out violently out of sexual frustration and a lack of purpose.

      Men are doing those things. Look, I get that ‘both sides’ impulse, but unfuckable women don’t pose an existential risk to society, and to be honest, women have to be pretty far gone to qualify as unfuckable.

      Angry women aren’t as violent or dangerous as angry men, and the social validation most men are cultured to seek through income, physical prowess, and social success is not as accessible as it once was.

      When I was little I noticed that all the father’s were just absent. It seemed to me then that the role of ‘dad’ had been demoted to a placeholder and was existentially diminished in terms of meaning and value. This has a deleterious effect on the sense of purpose of many young men, myself included, but it doesn’t have to define us.

      Women are seizing an opportunity for their own self actualization from the oppressive society we live in to find purpose and meaning. Maybe some more men need to do the same.

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          I like to think that I am a good man, and I know my girlfriend is a good woman.

          I know that I wasn’t really ready for the seriousness of relationship some of my ex’s wanted with me and I had to grow up, but I also remember frustrations with some of them not being mature and self reliant enough to be a reliable partner.

          I am very fortunate to be on good terms and friendly with many of my previous partners, and I’m lucky to have been in love several times in my life. I know I am a better person because of the love I have shared and that which has been shared with me.

          I’ve seen shitty groups of women do things I thought only happened in strawman arguments, like protest a college club of minority men sharing legal and social resources relevant to their community because ‘mens rights is anti feminist’ or other nonsense. I have also seen men joke about vaginal credit card and bitch about their own odious unfuckablity in the same breath.

          People can be shitty, that doesn’t mean you need to make assumptions about them. If you give most people a chance, they will tell you who they are.

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      What about unfuckable women? Do men ever feel threatened by them to the point of feari g for their lives???

      You pretend this is one sided but it is literally not the same for women dating as it is for men.

      To believe otherwise is incredibly ignorant.

      The vast majority of men never consider physical violence against them in a relationship.

      The good men arent afraid to admit that men in general need to do a lot better job of respecting women.

      You claim: "In other words what you’re saying is women don’t have to be responsible for anything, they can act any way they want. "

      No one is saying this. You assumed this. Your assumption is simply incorrect.

      This is the definition of a strawman. You’re fitting an argument the other person never made.