And you’d better not violate this one, or we’ll instate another!!
While it might seem like the punishment for violating the orders has been way too small, the judge is doing it on purpose to not give Trump any ammo to appeal a jail sentence for it. He’s going through the standard escalation process.
I hate this man so much
How about we make it a literal gag order and stick a crusty sock in his mouth and duct tape that shit
I’m pretty sure duct tape doesn’t stick to wet shit, so you’ll have to use something else for him.
There’s a two part epoxy for everything.
Wait why was it ever uninstated?!?
Trumps lawyers convinced a different judge it was unconstitutional.
Had to appeal that decision.
No, not quite. Trump’s lawyers appealed it, and the judge who initially reviewed the appeal simply suspended the order while the appeal was in progress. Now that the appeal has been denied, the order goes back into place.
Ah, my bad.
That seems like a dangerous precedent? Like if someone at trial had a protective order not to go beat the cr*p out of a witness… They could simply appeal the order, do the deed, and then once the order is reinstated it’s now moot because they’ve already done it?!
That’s not comparing the same thing. Beating the crap out of someone is inherently illegal, free speech is not.
True, but in this case his free speech is known to have inflamed his cult followers to commit acts of violence in his name, so it’s a closer comparison than it appears on the surface. Court personnel are already receiving death threats.
Oh, he absolutely should be told to shut his mouth.
The point is the courts have to be a lot more careful about circumscribing a right that has quite strong existing protections versus something that does not.
Slander and libel are inherently illegal, being confidently wrong on the internet is not. Lucky you.
Let’s make sure that all those horses are out and long gone from the barn and then close the door.
At this point I would just be happy if he bought himself a private island, and lived there in peace, just as long as he would shut up.
as long as he would shut up.
There’s only one thing that will ever make him do that, and it took Kissinger yesterday.
Lol, he can’t afford an island. He can’t even afford to pay his lawyers.
Well not a nice island.
he bought himself a private island, and loved there in peace,
That’s a mental image I did not need today
Heh, corrected, thank you!
Hell no. He doesn’t get to be comfortable for the remainder of his time.
I would see it as minimizing the dammage.
If the only alternatives was status quo, and him living in comfort and the rest of the world get to move on, then I’d pick the secondary.
Yeah, so what? Telling him doesn’t do anything. Charging him. Fining him.
Put the fucking hotdog skinned idiot in jail.
One sentence decision… would it have killed them to have quoted the full sentence?
Found the PDF linked here… ok, it’s TECHNICALLY one sentence…
"A petition having been filed with this Court on November 15, 2023, seeking to annul and vacate pursuant to CPLR 7803(2) and (3): (1) orders of the Supreme Court, New York County, entered on or about October 20, 2023 and on or about October 26, 2023 constituting summary findings of contempt against petitioner Donald J. Trump; (2) a “gag order” of the same court and justice entered on the record on or about October 03, 2023, and so-ordered on or about October 26, 2023, and a “supplemental limited gag order” of the same court and justice entered on or about November 03, 2023,
And petitioners having moved to stay enforcement of the aforesaid gag order and supplemental limited gag order pending hearing and determination of the instant petition,
Now, upon reading and filing the papers with respect to the motion, and due deliberation having been had thereon,
It is ordered that the motion is denied; the interim relief granted by order of a Justice of this Court, dated November 16, 2023, is hereby vacated.
ENTERED: November 30, 2023"
I find the headline to be much more coherent. I get what you’re complaining about with articles not being informative towards their headlines statement, or headline statements not having anything to do with the articles therein, but this time I’m giving them a pass. Single sentences should not have a paragraph break, let alone the multiple breaks in this “sentence”
Oh, it definitely tortures the definition of “sentence”. Split across 2 pages too!
I’m just gonna say it: it’s not a single sentence. It’s a series of malformed paragraphs each consisting of a sentence fragment.
Or that’s what it is in English. I think legalese had different rules of grammar.
I’m just gonna say it: it’s not a single sentence. It’s a series of malformed paragraphs each consisting of a sentence fragment.
Or that’s what it is in English. I think legalese had different rules of grammar.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
The one-sentence decision from a four-judge panel came two weeks after an individual appellate judge had put the order on hold while the appeals process played out.
Engoron imposed the initial gag order Oct. 3 after Trump posted a derogatory comment about the judge’s law clerk to social media.
The post, which included a baseless allegation about the clerk’s personal life, came the second day of the trial in New York Attorney General Letitia James’ lawsuit.
The former president, now the front-runner for the Republican 2024 presidential nomination, contends the lawsuit is a political attack by James, a Democrat.
Engoron later fined Trump $15,000 for violating the gag order and expanded it to include his lawyers after they questioned clerk Allison Greenfield’s prominent role on the bench, where she sits alongside the judge, exchanging notes and advising him during testimony.
State lawyers had sought to tie Trump’s comments to an uptick in nasty calls and messages directed at the judge and law clerk.
The original article contains 377 words, the summary contains 163 words. Saved 57%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
This isn’t a win.
It’s a loss that he’s such a piece of shit that it’s needed to begin with.
It’s a loss that they keep giving him additional “chances” instead of throwing him in jail for contempt.
The judge is doing it so he can’t appeal it and win when they do throw him in jail.
