• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I’m a conservative who is atheist, gay friendly, and thinks we should have open borders.

    Oh, so which conservative views do you hold that are so important that you’ll vote for candidates that use religion as an excuse to oppose gay rights and oppose asylum as a concept?

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      7 months ago

      I believe in personal freedom. I believe in smaller, more local governance. I believe in gun rights and the right to defend oneself. I believe in free market capitalism, fewer entitlements, and lower taxes. I believe the family structure is key to a thriving society and think it should be encouraged from a policy/tax standpoint rather than dismantled in favor of government “parentage”. I believe in meritocracy rather than the ever shifting goal post of equity. I do support abortion, but not in the late term/full term like many leftists do. I think it is a necessary evil and should never be celebrated.

      You clearly missed the part where I said I was for open borders. Which current candidates oppose gay rights, and what rights are we talking about?

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        I believe in personal freedom.

        The party you support celebrates when 11 year olds are forced by the state to carry rapists’ offspring to term. The party you support cheered when a speaker at CPAC suggested eradicating trans people. Your party does not support personal freedom.

        I believe in smaller, more local governance.

        Your party won’t let cities ban fracking or plastic bags. But do they ever use “local governance” to codify bigotry into law, like with “don’t say gay” and “papers please” laws.

        I believe in gun rights and the right to defend oneself.

        And here we come to the first answer that your party actually supports: more school shootings.

        I believe in free market capitalism, fewer entitlements, and lower taxes.

        restated: Price gouging is just fine, poor people should suffer, and we should give handouts to the rich.

        I believe the family structure is key to a thriving society and think it should be encouraged from a policy/tax standpoint rather than dismantled in favor of government “parentage”.

        The government isn’t trying to take your kids unless you’re abusing them.

        I believe in meritocracy rather than the ever shifting goal post of equity.

        Legacy admissions good, diversity bad.

        I do support abortion, but not in the late term/full term like many leftists do. I think it is a necessary evil and should never be celebrated.

        The party you support does not. Your party rewards rapists by forcing their victims to carry their offspring. And you vote for this.

        You clearly missed the part where I said I was for open borders.

        I did not. I pointed out that the party you vote for is opposed to asylum as a concept.

        Which current candidates oppose gay rights

        Candidates? Your current speaker of the house.

        and what rights are we talking about?

        Equal treatment under the law. Including the right to marry.

        Way I see it, you use platitudes about your party that aren’t grounded in reality to support a bigoted party that only does well by the rich, and whose policies harm the vulnerable.

        You choose to support that party despite your stated disagreements with them. So some of the things you listed must override your stated support for gay rights, immigrants, and abortion.

        It’s the guns, isn’t it?