Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I’m sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

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    I am disabled. I would take a magic cure in a second, as would the vast majority of disabled people.

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        I think if you do not want or need a cure, it’s not a disability. Doesn’t make sense to call it a disability then.

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          Autism is a disability mostly for social reasons, not for intrinsic reasons. I guess you could say that I do want a cure, if the cure is society becoming more tolerant. But I don’t want a cure that changes my intrinsic nature, because there’s nothing intrinsically wrong with being autistic.

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            What is a disability “for intrinsic reasons” or that is “intrinsically wrong”? Only disabilities that cause direct pain?

            Per definition, a disability is something that gives you a handicap for living in how the world is.

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              A disability for intrinsic reasons would be something like paraplegia or deafness. There is no social relativity to whether people with these conditions can do less things. But whether something is intrinsically wrong with that person is up to their own judgement. They are free to set their own standard in that case, and determine whether they really should be able to walk or hear, just as I’m free to determine whether I really should be able to make eye contact or process speech. (It is my opinion that the loudness of public spaces is unnatural and unjust, and that people need to fucking speak clearly instead of being lazy and making me do the work of listening closely)

              But I think you’ve ignored my point. Which is that I don’t want to be cured of my mind’s nature, but I do want to be free of a society that disables autistic people. My question to you is, do I want to be cured? Is social acceptance and accommodation a cure?

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                I don’t care. The definition of what a disability is, is clear. When all people would be deaf, would deafness be a disability? No.

                It doesn’t matter whether you personally want to be cured or not. If someone has no legs and they like it, it’s still a disability because the person has a clear handicap in the current world. It doesn’t matter that, in a hypothetical world where heaving legs doesn’t matter, it wouldn’t be seen as a handicap.

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                  I think if you do not want or need a cure, it’s not a disability. Doesn’t make sense to call it a disability then.

                  I was having a conversation about this thing you said. Did you change your mind and decide you don’t agree with it anymore?

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                    No, it’s something else than (instead of autism). Perhaps it a-symptomatic or someone has overcome it.

                    Imagine someone has a broken leg. It would not make sense to say they still have a broken leg but it’s not a disability because society could just change and make it a non-problem. It’s irrelevant whether it wouldn’t be seen as a problem when everyone had a broken leg or no one would care about it.