• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    I don’t like meta as a company.

    But I don’t want to exclude a bunch of people just because they decided to use a server owned by meta. It’s not like the server is a community dedicated to hurting people or promoting hate speech or something, and I don’t want to punish people just because they’re not savvy enough to understand the problems with meta. Let them federate and just don’t follow any of them if you’re not interested in any of them.

    Defederating isn’t going to benefit us or hurt meta, it’s just gonna hurt the people who use threads.

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      11 months ago

      But I don’t want to exclude a bunch of people just because they decided to use a server owned by meta.

      I do.

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        11 months ago

        You make the fediverse a worse place, if your default is to arbitrarily exclude and gatekeep against people unlike you, as it seems to be.

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          11 months ago

          The people on Tumblr are entirely unlike me … but I have no issues federating with Tumblr.

          You might want to consider why this is the case.

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            11 months ago

            I’d say you may want to consider why this is the case. If you’re OK federating tumblr (which I agree with), but not ok federating threads, even if defederating threads won’t impact Meta at all and only negatively affects thread users - that seems pretty hypocritical and unnecessarily spiteful towards normies.

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      11 months ago

      Your word choice is just bizarre. Nobody would be excluded, they’d only have to make a profile on a different, normal server. And nobody would be “hurt” by not having access to Lemmy’s memes about Linux and similar stuff.

      just don’t follow any of them if you’re not interested in any of them

      Except that theoretically my “All” feed would still be full of garbage-tier content that people typically expect and post on Meta’s services, and that userbase with its same mindset would eventually spill over into the communities that I do follow too.

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        11 months ago

        Your response isn’t self consistent.

        they’d only have to make a profile on a different, normal server my “All” feed would still be full of garbage-tier content that people typically expect and post on Meta’s services

        If they make a profile on a normal server then your feed will be full of that same content you don’t want. You’re trying to exclude users, not meta itself.

        Besides, you keep taking as though they’re federating with Lemmy. They’re not, they’re federating with mastodon. Having mastodon posts show up automatically in your Lemmy feeds is unusual. Kbin, maybe.

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      11 months ago

      Defederating isn’t going to benefit us or hurt meta, it’s just gonna hurt the people who use threads.

      …Good. they should move their happy asses to a normal, non-ghoul of a corporation run mastodon server, if it pains them so.

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            11 months ago

            this wont cause meta to eat a bag of dicks. it doesn’t actually hurt meta if you defederate with them. if they want to harvest data, they can already do that by standing up their own activitypub server and just subscribing to everything.

            not everyone is as technically savvy as we are, or as aware of corporate politics as we are. as much as I think they should be, they arent, and so they use facebook and threads and twitter. I dont think we should exclude them on the sole basis of their ignorance in this particular area.

            Most people don’t care about that shit as much as we do. and if a social network doesn’t have a good supply of normies, then it devolves into a circlejerk cesspit real quick.