Is there any set of circumstances where dems would ever take meaningful, organized action against The Party?

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    10 months ago

    Man, federation really is reminding me of Reddit, every bozo with 10 fingers and roughly enough braincells to work them keeps popping in on every political post now that we’re approaching election season

    ‘How dare you make a post critical of my team, you’re supposed to hate conservatives moarrrr, NOOOOOOoooOOO you’re going to help THEM WIN’

    Or we get the smuglord ‘oh, Biden ACSHUALLY did all these things (provides list of bills which materially helped nobody here and in some instances actively made people’s lives worse)’

    Biden made a campaign promise and failed to follow through on it. He lied.

    Like he did about helping codify Roe, like he did about stemming COVID, like he did about making immigration humane (all he did was pass an EO making sure ‘alien’ got changed to ‘migrant’) (and hell his AG fought to have the ability to detain ‘migrants’ indefinitely), like he did about gun violence, like he did about healthcare reform, like he did about infrastructure, like he did about climate change, like he did about everything

    ‘Oh he’s not a king’ bitch he can unilaterally pass EOs, and then it’s up to courts to determine if they’re permitted or not (and he can ignore them and order federal officials to uphold them anyway, ask Andrew Jackson and the Cherokee, Muscogee, Seminole, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Ponca and Ho-Chunk/Winnebago peoples)

    ‘Oh but then conservatives could abuse that power’ they don’t already? And you’re going to use that as an excuse to never do anything better?

    You’re sitting in a lake of piss moaning about how nothing can get better instead of…trying to get out of the piss lake

      • ziggurter [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        9 months ago

        Like they do to…oh, I don’t know, Black socialists who speak out against war. Liberals’ fear about how bad it would be if Democrats actually decided to take action against Republicans is literally already what they do to leftists. The world they claim to be terrified of is the world we are already living in, and supporters of this status quo fascism have just happily helped pull the blinders down over their own eyes.

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        10 months ago

        If they really gave a shit they would have done it on January 7th. Instead, their most spineless sychophants demand that I be the one to give a shit instead. Like clapping for Tinkerbell, they can’t stop the other team unless you believe!

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      10 months ago

      Word. Sums up my thoughts on the matter of “uwu smol bean powerless joe” perfectly. It’s pathetic hwo allergic libs are to weilding power.

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        9 months ago

        Well, they’re happy to wield power against us (Occupy, Ferguson, election shenanigans against the Green Party, etc.). They’re just “allergic” to it when it’s against their supposed “enemies across the aisle”. This is one of the big things that makes it so clear that there’s only one party: the Business Party, or Liberal Party, or whatever you want to call it.

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      It’s so funny, every election cycle of my existence on this planet has been “republican gets elected, does whatever they want, democrat gets elected, it’s soooo hard to pass laws :(”, repeat ad nauseum. I have this uncanny ability known as “pattern recognition”.

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        10 months ago

        Yup. Maintaining the status quo is easier than changing it. Even the tiny little bit Democrats try to change.

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          10 months ago

          Dont you libs hate Trump so much because he did some bad things? Did he not do things? Was it just the status quo you’re so mad about?

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            9 months ago

            I remember when Biden first got in and Libs were saying he was a smol bean and us Chad leftists were pointing this out about Trump I saw several Libs saying “well to be honest Trump really didn’t achieve THAT MUCH while in office.”

            Okay so you’re admitting you just didn’t like the guy cuz he was a uncivil dang cheeto?

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          10 months ago

          Even the tiny little bit Democrats try to change.

          they don’t “try to change”, they expand on conservative policies while pretending that doing good things is impossible. They are controlled opposition. I’m tired of having this conversation every 4 years.

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            10 months ago

            Just look at Israel. The Democratic party Hulked the fuck out, closed ranks, and absolutely shattered any and all opposition to the genocide. They are more than capable of exercising massive political power but for some reason they only ever do it for terrible things and never for “that great thing that they weawwy weawwy want if it wasn’t for those mean ol’ Republicans.”

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          10 months ago

          Yup. Maintaining the status quo is easier than changing it. Even the tiny little bit Democrats try to change.

          Why was Trump able to make so many changes? Was it because he was a better statesman than Biden?

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            9 months ago

            The only people believing that Trump is actually a master of deal making is the Republicans and Blue no matter who peeps.

            Reminds me of how people keep going on about the charisma of Hitler.

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        10 months ago

        Since you evidently don’t understand how the government works, both Congress and the Senate have to pass a bill for it to become law. The Senate is intentionally designed to give conservatives more power.

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          I was going to vote for Biden but now I won’t because you acted with such brutal incivility. This is the most important election of our lives; democracy itself is on the ballot and you are turning people away from the polls before they’ve even opened. You are handing Trump the keys to the White House; you are ushering in the dark tide of fascism. Enjoy the next election, you have made it our last.