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The results are showing up… Now we have to hope for the law to be declined… Already discussed about the chat control law of the EU, here : https://lemmy.ml/post/16469106

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
    21·
    19 days ago

    The only is avoid centralized chats, using decentralized encrypted ones. For all those which use Watsfuck and others like these Google-Zuckerbot derivates it makes anyway no difference if the EU scan or not their chats, especially using stock iPhone or Android.

      • Zerush@lemmy.ml
        2·
        19 days ago

        Yeah, wait for it. Even in China they are not cappable to control all the privacy tricks and measures for messages by the users. Where there is a law, there is also a trick to go around it, I doubt very much that they manage to control more than the usual chat apps, the effort would be economically unaffordable to do it also in decentralized or even on self-hosted private networks.

        • smiletolerantly@awful.systems
          5·
          19 days ago

          They don’t actually have to enforce that though. Rather, it’s a neat trick: if you do use encrypted chats, well, you’re purposefully doing something illegal! To hide information, no less! That surely means you have more to hide, and since you’ve already broken a law, let’s investigate further!

          To be clear: I’m not saying this is the intended effect. But it is a frighteningly possible one. Anyone who has reason to hide their communication (regime critical activists, opposition politicians, investigative journalists,…) either have to

          • accept that their communication will be scanned, making it trivial to spy on them and use that information (legally, no less!) to hinder/stop them, or
          • do something illegal, giving pretext for hindering/stopping them since they’ve now committed a crime
          • Zerush@lemmy.ml
            3·
            19 days ago

            the argument ?I’ve nothing to hide? isn’t valid. Ask the people if then it’s also OK if the Postman or anyone else read their private correspondence, or is looking over their shoulder while you are chatting with someone, above you are investigated by the authorities when you try to avoid it, it’s exactly the same

          • foremanguy@lemmy.mlOP
            2·
            19 days ago

            They don’t want to forbid the encryption only to backdoor to have a control on it. But that’s almost impossible to backdoor all of them…

        • foremanguy@lemmy.mlOP
          1·
          19 days ago

          I know that the law is almost impossible to apply but first we have to stop it, if they gain the power of reading trough WhatsApp and else, they could ask for more after

    • menas@lemmy.wtf
      1·
      19 days ago

      I read the text, and didn’t find anything on centralize or decentralize messenger. Are you talking about the technical solution they want to use ? The text is very confusing about it.