Western media have finally change course. They are now admitting that the much promoted Ukrainian counter-offensive has failed. In fact, the acknowledge that it never had a chance to win in the first place.
The Hill, the Washington Post and CNN now agree that the Ukrainian army will never achieve its aims.
western MSM has a rare encounter with reality!
That makes it difficult for the Biden administration to get Congress approval for $24 billion in additional ‘aid’ to Ukraine. It does not make sense to pay for a cause that is evidently lost.
b seems overly hopeful regarding the rationality of US congress, but i think hes right- why would we throw more money at them, US politicians have made it clear they do not support bringing Ukraine into NATO if they do not win this conflict. of course, US politicians are prone to lying and misleading
Nothing has come from the ‘peace conference’ which Saudi Arabia arranged on Ukraine’s behalf
lol. lmao even. props to big dog MBS for trying
Despite the onslaught of bad news the Ukrainian army is still trying to take Russian positions in the south and east of Ukraine. But it simply does not have enough in men and material to break through the lines.
Even if they would manage to get a local breakthrough there are not enough reserves to push for the necessary follow up. Just one of the NATO trained brigades has still been held back. All others have been mauled in their various deployment zones.
nothing has changed it seems
In the northeast around Kupyansk the Russians have started their own offensive which has the Ukrainians on the run. Ukraine has ordered the evacuation of the area
But Kupyansk is a Russian city and people refuse to leave.
show this to the libs claiming Russians are committing genocide in the regions they capture. curious that these civilians are content with Russian occupation when you believe what western media claims
The Russian campaign is slowly speeding up. As the Ukrainian Strana.news reports (machine translation):
Also in Ukraine, it is recorded that from Kupyansk to Bakhmut, Russia has increased the number of attacks.
"Over the past month, the total number of attacks in the Kupyansk, Limansky and Bakhmut directions has grown significantly. In July, during the week there were 6-6.5 thousand attacks, during the last week-9 thousand attacks, " - said the representative of the National Guard Ruslan Muzychuk.
According to him, the Russian Federation does not experience “shell hunger”.
Aviation is also actively used, and over the past few weeks, more than 50 air attacks have been taking place every day, and sometimes more than 80.
That is bad news for the Ukrainian side which lacks the reserves to counter the Russian onslaught. There are also less weapons coming in from the West. F-16 fighter jets will be delayed for another nine months due to training issues. Tanks and other material are in short supply.
these supply issues sure bode well for the west’s performance in WW3 
Strana also report of an interview with a knowledgeable Ukrainian soldier (machine translation):
Continuing the topic of the situation at the front, an interesting interview was given by a Ukrainian sniper fighting near Bakhmut with the call sign “Grandfather”. On the air of political scientist Yuri Romanenko, he was introduced as Konstantin Proshinsky (this is a pseudonym).
The fighter spoke in detail about his vision of the situation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian army.
- Mobilization. In his opinion, it is conducted incorrectly. Recruits are sent to the front who have never been trained, and they are often over 50 years old and with a whole bunch of diseases.
- No rotation. The soldier says that “the same brigades” are fighting at the front, and people are not taken out of the front line for six months or more. Whereas by Western standards, they can be kept in a war zone for no more than three months.
- Behavior of mid-and high-level commanders. According to Proshinsky, many of them are trying to arrange a “mini-Stalingrad” on the positions, forcing them to go into frontal assaults on well-fortified Russian positions.
- The Russian Army began to fight better.
- Proshinsky believes that Russia has not yet used much of what it has against Ukraine.
The soldier thinks that the Russians will not move from their positions and that a stalemate peace like in Korea would be the end result.
UAF in real dire times— recruiting the elderly, poor logistics, engaging the enemy at inopportune times, and Russia has yet to waver
I believe that to be wrong. Russia’s aim is to liberate at least the four regions that it has claimed for itself. For political reasons it can not stop before that is done.
Should the Ukraine continue to fight after that, Russia is likely to set new aims and take more land.
more editorializing, but it doesnt seem unreasonable. i thought Russia would stick to its original goal of Donetsk and Luhansk, but if Zaporizhzhia and Kherson are receptive to Russian governance, it would be foolish for Russia to give them up
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Hey @jemikwa@lemmy.blahaj.zone and @natecox@programming.dev Why don’t you show up and defend your beliefs in the free marketplace of democracy instead of crying for the authoritarian Stalinist mods to silence everyone you don’t like.
Show me one place the Ukronazis broke through even the first line of Russian defences. I’ll wait, dorks.
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Sees tankies
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Double whammy from @natecox@programming.dev stuffing more hatemail in the modbox. The quicker you either 1) show up and actually try and prove why you’re right and the article is wrong. or 2) stop making false mod reports over opinions you disagree with, the quicker you’ll stop getting pinged for wasting everyone’s time.
@natecox@programming.dev are you really going to keep replying to me via mod reports? Are you really that scared of saying hello or incapable of walking away from an unwinnable event?
@natecox@programming.dev this is getting boring, knock off filling my report box with your replies and we’ll call it even.
Alright @natecox@programming.dev you decided to keep going, not me.
Looks like Amadeus Bordiga has an account on the programming instance.
support of human rights violations
Hmm maybe we should just report every pro USA comment as this?
Please don’t
Ok 😔
“Mods! mods! Delete this tankie at once.”
They think this is Reddit.
Ah yes, the reputable source of information that is moonofalabama.org. Top tier reporting, folks
My american internet friends got so mad at me when I said at the beginning of all this that there should be an immediate ceasefire and surrender to stop the fighting and I was called an apologist for Putin and that this was an unprovoked invasion and you have to protect yourself. These people never experienced military action near their homes.
an unprovoked invasion
NATO expands: I sleep
Donbass Secedes and wants to be Russian to avoid ethnic persecution from Lviv: Real shit
Fun fact: only 3 countries on the list (Hungary, Slovenia and North Macedonia) held a referendum on whether their countries should join NATO. So much for NATO as the defender of democracy I guess. But the Crimean referedum was a total sham, definitely a fake, I know because I am an expert on democracy.
Same, I got called a Nazi for saying we shouldn’t send them “lethal aid”, as if flooding a warzone with bullets is how you get less people shot.
“But it will only be the bad people getting shot more”
Need to have more good guys with a gun after all.
…those guys with Swastikas tattoos are the good guys right?
Oh nohoho, patented Slava Ukraini, old slavic symbols!
The counter offensive is more than a military maneuver. It’s an idea. Light itself.
And if we can harness that light to light up a high school gymnasium, to light up a Starbucks, to light up a Walmart, than perhaps we can light up the world.
Disgusting waste of lives.
All of this should have fucking ended but Boris Johnson fucked it all. Fuck him and fuck all the liberals that have been spewing bloodthirsty vile shit calling for tens of thousands of lives to be wasted in a fucking meatgrinder for some lines on a map. I do not give a fuck about the Ukrainian state, I do not give a fuck about the Russian state. Lines on a map are not people.
These people deserved better than bloodthirsty assholes.
Its just so much fucking blood spilled.
I can’t get over how many people are throwing their lives away over some dipshits in their respective capitals putting new lines on a map. Nightmarish to see Ukrainians and Russians alike march to their deaths over this shit.
This is simply the overture of what will turn out to be the ultimate fight between US and China - the showdown between finance capitalism and industrial capitalism. All the geopolitical events revolve around this fundamental contradiction of capitalism, which is now approaching its zenith.
What is happening in Ukraine today is likely a cakewalk compared to what is to come. Biden truly scares me, being so casually ending European prosperity (it won’t recover for the next half a century) and using monetary and economic policies to engineer famines and poverty across the developing world just to slow the decline of the empire. The interest rates hikes, and the sanctions against Russian agricultural products, are literally impoverishing and killing people in the global south.
He will make sure that America will be the last to go down, even if it means total annihilation in a war against China. The real question is, how will the rest of the world respond to this?
Biden truly scares me, being so casually ending European prosperity
Biden’s a senile puppet. He didn’t do anything aside from sign whatever was put on his desk by staffers and read whatever was on his teleprompter. Europe was ultimately screwed by its own slavish obedience to deindustrialization, a process decades in the making and orchestrated by the forces of finance. This was enhanced by their millennia-old tangled web of bigotries that made it easy for finance to divide and conquer them. They’d have been fucked over in the exact same way regardless of who sat in the oval office or what colour of lawn sign that person had.
I think many people are seriously underestimating the ghoulishness of Biden.
The Biden administration is significantly a step up when it comes to aggressive foreign policy. There was a clip of Trump telling the Europeans that they have to spend 2% of their GDP into defense and the people in the room were just laughing at him. Biden actually made Europe do it for real.
Trump was also very keen on pushing Merkel’s Germany to build this massive LNG terminal to pivot away from Russian gas - the project eventually went nowhere. Biden actually made Europe depends on American gas and spending billions to build those terminals for real.
Trump started a petty trade war with China in 2018, and was reciprocated upon by the Chinese. Biden started a technological sanction against China that has no proportional response. To understand how seriously China sees this issue, you need to read the science fiction novel Three Body Problem, which is extremely popular among the elite and academic circles in China.
Trump likes to talk big and pretends like he is this genius businessman who can make his adversaries yield, but his “achievements” were literally nothing compared to what Biden had accomplished in just 2 years in office.
I don’t think even Obama would dare to cross this line, and Obama was the one who deleted half of the generational wealth of black community overnight, which as Michael Hudson repeatedly reminded us, made him quite possibly the most racist president in the history of the United States.
My point is that even Obama didn’t dare to step this far, while Biden is picking fight with the entire world. If you look at his entire career, Biden is unequivocally a true believer in neoliberalism, a fanatical ideologue (and in my opinion, a lot more so than Obama).
I don’t think even Obama would dare to cross this line, and Obama was the one who deleted half of the generational wealth of black community overnight, which as Michael Hudson repeatedly reminded us, made him quite possibly the most racist president in the history of the United States.
I don’t think Obama is anywhere close to the most racist president in US history, but that speaks more to the quality of his competition than any lack of racism on his part.
I guess the difference is between someone who actively petitions for segregation to prevent black people from renting/buying houses in your neighborhood, and someone who makes the black community so poor that they can never afford to move into your neighborhood.
Obama has probably done more to prevent the future generations of black families from ever becoming homeowners than the racist Republicans could only dream of. He’s the choice candidate for the “smart” racists.
some Ukrainians are being coerced into serving. libs will call me a Russian bot for this, but i dont think the same can be said for Russia. they have enough active military personnel to avoid drafting; they havent even deployed them all
but yeah, war is depressing. hopefully before we go extinct we will achieve communism and end war
Does Ukraine really need to coerce people into serving? I was under the impression that the country had huge numbers of bloodthirsty fascists salivating at the thought of killing “RuZZian orcs.”
The Ukrainian leader said all officials responsible for military conscription in each region of the country were dismissed.
Mr Zelenskyy said a probe into military recruitment centres across the nation exposed illegal dealings including bribery.
The investigations also unveiled reports of officials helping men dodge conscription by fleeing across borders.
There is currently a wartime ban on travel for draft-eligible men.
“This system should be run by people who know exactly what war is and why cynicism and bribery during war is treason,” Mr Zelenskyy said on Friday.
‘recruitment’ lmao
libs will call me a Russian bot
Everyone who disagrees with me is a lib is great defense. Chuds will disagree with me though
Quite a leap you do there. Ignoring political science and social science of more than 100 years, ignoring how social democratic liberals in the Weimar Republic did ally with conservatives and the military against party member who weren’t in favour of the war with talk of traitors and propaganda of being the voice of the enemy (which is the back then equivalent of “Russian Bots”) is certainly something.
You also ignore the difference i.e. from USA liberal’s who favour property rights over people’s lives and often espouse values only as long as it doesn’t cost a thing and how they do support the US empire and often its wars.
You also leap since OP didn’t say “all are against me!”, but was precise. That you don’t understand slang is kinda a You problem. You also deny the experience of others, maybe that is something that you also do in your regular life and social interactions? If so you can utilize a change of perspective and behavior to get more from the world. People here - even ones who are far from Russian propaganda - are often called Russian bots by people on many instances, often by people labeling themselves as liberals. I have different views than many on this site and yet I can differentiate what people say.
Finally do you think your argument is in any way new or interesting? Like, what was your motivation to post it?
Are you not a liberal? What’s your political views? I wanna hear
I don’t consider myself a lib. Housing should not be an asset for profit. Workers pay should increase based on the value they create. Housing first policy for the homeless. Food prices should not be rising based on corporate profit seeking
I think I’m still pro market economy, but not in a capitalist sense. A market economy can incentivize progress, but workers shouldn’t be forced to participate at minimum wage through the threat of hunger and homelessness.
corporate power lobbying has ruined public infrastructure and that’s bad.
But I’m not backing Russia fully on this invasion thing, so I’m definitely a liberal!
Workers pay should increase based on the value they create
Who do you think should get shares from the worker’s fruits of labours, too? Who do you think ought to distribute them on the level of a company and on the level of societies?
Housing should not be an asset for profit
What changes in laws and legislation as well as enforcement of power are needed for that? To de-commodify what Neoliberalism and Colonialism as well as Imperialism did privatize over the last centuries will be a hard fight.
How do you think power can be generated to achieve those goals? Which in itself are idealist or utopist. The question is how to change the world after all.
pro market economy, but not in a capitalist sense
So “Markets Not Capitalism: Individualist Anarchism Against” type?
Two other bits on the main page, for context of who it writing at this domain:
The judicial case against Hunter Biden will stay alive.
That increases the possibility that Joe Biden will have to answer questions about his own corrupt dealings related to Hunter Biden’s businesses.
^^ That’s currently in the top article.
And then another has this headline:
World Bank Group Goes Woke
yeah, we know. the current american warchief is a liberal. so the reactionaries hate him too. we hate all american warchiefs. obama, bush, biden. doesn’t matter really.
we know better than any of you that if Trump were president people like the MoA guy would stand a good chance of actually supporting the ukraine war. why? because liberals were bloodthirsty towards syrians and libyans just because obama was in charge of those wars. it’s a feature of american culture that americans are more concerned about the personality of the warlord than wether there is a war. cnn, msnbc, npr, and all liberal capitalist media would have continued to talk about ukraine’s nazi problem if it was Trump who was supporting them.
that said, lmao at anyone who wants to protect their favorite oligarch’s failson. wearing party hackery on their sleeve like that is quite revealing.
I dunno what you’re even arguing. I commented that he’s a failson a few days back, saying that at least he fucks and does drugs, living it up. I don’t care about these people.
I don’t care about these people.
you could have stopped at MoA’s cringe anti-woke posting, yet you have to wear the truth on your sleeve as well:
I’ll have you know this is an improper source, for they commemorate federal investigation of liberal oligarchs.
comments are cheap. some comments are more revealing than others.
I’ll have you know this is an improper source
comments are cheap. some comments are more revealing than others.
You included a quote that wasn’t me. What the fuck are you on? I just woke up (PST), so sorry if I’m not following a thread.
you have to wear the truth on your sleeve as well:
And fuck your sleeves. I thought about joining hexbear when I learned that it was a chapo refuge, but I went with my instance because I’m a computer nerd. I dunno your in-jokes and bullshit, so I’m prolly missing something. I’m a Leftist who isn’t phased by you’re being a fucktard. I’m gonna go get breakfast. Eat my ass.
You included a quote that wasn’t me
let me help you find your own comment
i don’t really care if you think hunter biden is ‘at least cool’ for ‘doing drugs’. drug prohibition is for the poors. every rich oligarch in america is on various types of cocaine. the bidens earned money by putting themselves at the head of companies seized by their political influence as american oligarchs. they are now using the american war machine to defend that cashline. that you think criticizing the bidens is somehow a bad thing in itself is quite revealing.
the fact is that since the ukraine war is being led by the american liberals, the reactionaries have had a good record of their ineptitude. and inept they have been. that’s all we use these sources for: understanding the front. I hate people like alexander mercouris and MoA because they are reactionaries. you think they are untrustworthy because they hate the american oligarchs you favor.
And fuck your sleeves.
the sleeves are yours. you’re the one wearing them. and the word ‘liberal’ are written all over them.
that you think criticizing the bidens is somehow a bad thing in itself is quite revealing.
I never suggested such. I don’t give a fuck about them.
the sleeves are yours. you’re the one wearing them. and the word ‘liberal’ are written all over them.
Fuck liberals and fuck you for calling me one. I may not be as steeped in Leftist culture as you (I freely admit to not recognizing some of your references), but I’m far from a center-right, center-left, centrist dem lib bullshitter. I want the same things you do (more or less), which is a reasonable system where we take care of people and it’s not possible to exploit others. I may not be able to articulate some ideas that you can, but I found myself on this side only during the pan when previously I was a lib. Fuck you if you fault me for still finding my way.
Fuck you if you fault me for still finding my way.
People here are already aware of what places like MoA are. We’ve discussed, litigated, and straight up joked about their brainworms. We’ve used them in limited capacity nonetheless, because there’s a tendency in American wars for the political affiliation of the president to warp coverage entirely. The Iraq and Afghanistan Wars were lauded by conservative and denounced by liberal media. The Syria and Libya Wars were, likewise, lauded by liberals and denounced by conservatives. This sort of partisan hackery means that, sometimes, the other side of the aisle has a vested interest in covering failures of American foreign policy in ways that are closer to the truth. Yet the word closer is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. The right has it’s institutional spinsters and is also full of grifters. The same incentives are there for them to add in their editorializing of the facts, to push their agenda. Moreover, the American right wing is truly enamoured with Russia as some sort of conservative meccah, with which they can make common cause against liberals, the jews, the globalists, and, ultimately, China.
These are all things we are perfectly aware of. To a more intimate degree than you do. We are the ones reading these battlefront reports and rolling our eyes when someone says ‘actually Germany is deindustrializing because they are extreme left environmentalists’. Which is why you’ve come across as a asshole liberal who is only interested in bashing leftists. And also because you’ve cited MoA’s post about the Bidens being corrupt something to be shocked at. Of course they are corrupt. Biden is the Reagan of financialization, he’s the architect of Delaware as a fiscal paradise. He didn’t get where he did for nothing.
Why do you all here support Russia? it’s not an accusation, I genuinely don’t understand
the language in this post seems like you’re almost rooting for Ukraine to fail, and I don’t understand why
The sooner Ukraine loses the less Ukrainians die. We aren’t nationalists so we don’t value national sovereignty(at least inherently).
Among other reasons.
