• NaNin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 hour ago

    A lot of people have just accepted surviellance for convienience.

    People close to me get TSA precheck even though it requires fingerprinting, because “the government already has your fingerprints”

    But if they did, why would they need to ask your for them?

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    25 minutes ago

    Off-topic, but I do agree in general that Edge is a solid browser. I use it when I’m at work and really love the vertical tabs and tab groups. I use firefox for personal use and am patiently waiting for the vertical tabs on the stable release (and not just in about:config).

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    I do fall into that way of thinking sometimes and in discussions and such, but even then, i still take steps to maintain a level of privacy. It’s for stupid reasons, I’m admittedly not knowledgeable whatsoever on data privacy. (As in, why is it necessary since we already carry a lot of data collection devices with us as we go around that I know most people dont even think about.) But it makes me just feel better, I guess.

    Most of my friends have actually moved away from Firefox to more tailored browsers like opera, which i think is much worse in terms of data protection. (again, uninformed. It’s just something I’ve seen thrown around, feel free to correct me if that’s wrong.) At times, it really is quite easy to start thinking like the people highlighted in the post. I’m 22, and have a degree in computer science. There was a module on data security, but it was mostly focussed on data leaks and encryption methods rather than the ‘philosophy’ on why data protection is important. Even in the final year of uni, people were being quite flippant with it.

    It’s probably just a cultural shift, as more and more companies collect mass amounts of user data, people gradually get more comfortable with the idea I guess. Especially with gen alpha, who are born into a world where it’s just a fact that all companies are actively farming your data. To them, it’s not something to be concerned about whatsoever. There was never a time in which they had privacy, especially since they are introduced to technology before they can even speak, write, or remember.

    What I’ve put above is mostly just waffle honestly, but I hope it provides something to someone LMAO.

    Edit to add stuff: I guess to make the point more obvious, for younger generations it’s because privacy just isn’t real for them.

    • Ascend910@lemmy.mlOP
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      Agree, I am primarily on lemmy now. People here are way nicer to each other than Reddit

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      57 minutes ago

      Bro’s from the timeline where Flash became the dominant species.

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      5 hours ago

      Yes some subreddit is piviting hard captalism recently, giving up their dignity to defend corporations with their life.

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    A similar argument I hear is “If they want me, they will find and arrest me no matter my precautions”.

    Kinda yes… But why are you talking about threat models that include someone deliberately hunting you down? We are not high-ranking dissidents or criminals that they would put effort and money into finding. Our concern is passive surveillance - maybe the collected info doing us a disservice (like being leaked for scammers or sold to an evil ex), maybe even something mundane getting flagged and us being arrested just to serve as an example.

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        Yes. There are a lot of reasons why any one of us could turn into a high value target at the drop off a hat. If not to a government, then to an organisation or a lone lunatic.

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    When they realized they DO actually have something to hide, they moved the goalposts to now say nothing is private online anyway.

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    Elon Musk popularised this cope argument a few years ago. It sounds intelligent to people who are incapable of any level of critical thinking or nuance and believe everything in the world is either 100% A or 100% B with no in-between. Sadly, this is a large percentage of the population.

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        I was pretty sure he said something to the effect of “privacy doesn’t matter/doesn’t exist” a few years ago but I can’t find the interview I’m thinking of. All I can find is this video on the topic from The Hated One, which isn’t referencing the interview I’m thinking of.