Our demands

  1. Return the site’s moderation practice to it’s former, libs-banned-on-site glory. Move forward to a new, glorious form of banning theory inspired by TC69 thought, while learning from it’s mistakes, and listening to neurodivergent comrades
  2. Reinvigorate the heart of this site’s community, c/furry
  3. Remove r*ddit karma
  • Finger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    the attitude of “ban anything that even remotely sniffs of liberalism” did lead to an incident where TC69 banned a user for a small misunderstanding, then doubled down and re-banned the user with no explaination after the other admins unbanned them, and then basically the entire c/neurodiverse mod team quit the site because or that.

    hugely problematic behavior from a site admin. an unapologetic “everyone with a bad take or who ever upsets a frequent user deserves to be banned” is lazy moderating and hurts ND people

    edit: fuck i posted from the bit account by accident

    • WithoutFurtherDelay [they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      Oh, that’s what happened. Holy shit, I’ve been confused about what happened to the mod team for literally years. Were some of the c/furry mods part of that exodus? I remember some of them leaving

      No: more half measures Walter

      • BadTakesHaver [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Some of them were definitely on the c/furry mod team. Reason that mod team kinda just dissapeared without saying anything is because the incident was about “im leaving” callout posts, which led to the ban of “im leaving” posts in general, and the modteam (if i can recall) was too alienated and sad to really fight anymore about it. Hoping for a revival of that comm soon

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              This is my point, though. “Shit stirring” isn’t an issue unless issues haven’t actually been fully resolved (or it’s someone repeating something blatantly offensive on purpose). If something has been generally processed and come to a conclusion as a community, someone trying to bring it back up again would just be rightfully dismissed. I feel like it’s a red flag when a community has to crack down on discussions about itself. It has the same vibe as people refusing to communicate in a relationship because they don’t want to cause issues.

              Plus the stated reason, that being that nobody cares if you leave, is just flat out wrong. People get attached to individual users and while it isn’t the healthiest it’s weird to try and ignore that instead of addressing it directly

              • Well I’d rather not have a struggle session every time someone decides to leave. We have enough struggle sessions. If people want to resolve issues, the time to do it is as a participant in the community, not as a parting shot

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                Shit stirring is an issue though if you’re an admin that bans anyone disagreeing with the shit you’re stirring, and you ban them for being “transphobes” or “reactionaries” despite being neither. There was a time period where you couldn’t even criticize or disagree with her without getting banned for being reactionairy. If you do that then you also make it impossible to actually resolve the conflict.
                I think a lot of stuff wouldn’t have been sitewide conflicts if it hadn’t been for her picking a side and then banning those on the other side for being “reactionairy”. It made any resolution impossible because discussion was impossible.
                I got called a

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                rapist

                for drinking milk. I didn’t respond, but another user did. They pointed out that such an accusation was a bit much. They got banned for being reactionairy.

                Edit: if this gets removed for misinformation I’d sincerely and in good faith like to ask for an explanation on what that misinfo is.

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      Yeah I never really liked TC69s style. She was big on assuming the worst when people disagreed with her, then digging her heels in and using her clout to foment a dogpile. I think it was good all the transphobes got banned, but she kind of just banned whoever she wanted and then said they were transphobic or whatever.
      She also made two huge “I’m leaving you’re all transphobes” posts as far as I can recall.
      It was around the same time a lot of people got banned for reacting negatively to how r/vcj got onboarded. Nowadays the story was a bunch of sweet old vegans just got harassed as soon as they showed up. Guess I never got called a

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      rapist

      for drinking milk. Disagreeing with this onboarding in any way was likely to get you banned too.

      Edit: if this gets removed for misinformation I’d sincerely and in good faith like to ask for an explanation on what that misinfo is.