• T0X1C FIRE @burggit.moe
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    The same reason killing someone in a video game isn’t murder.

    But to keep it in the realm of sexual fetishes: It’s why liking furry isn’t beastiality Or why the insane amount of step-bro porn isn’t incest Or why rape porn isn’t, well, actual rape. Or why liking guro doesn’t make you a serial killer.

    And so on with any other “problematic” fetish.

    It’s all fantasy and has no baring on anything in reality. It’s a huge waste of time to try to get people in trouble for thought crimes that they won’t bring into reality.

    Sure you may think it’s weird. And that’s okay. Any fetish is weird if you aren’t personally into it. Especially the problematic ones. But at the end of the day, They aren’t hurting anyone so what is the problem?

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      The problem with it is you’re temping people/yourself with something and just like any human the more you expose yourself to the temptation the more likely you become to act on it. And the video game argument is dead. Playing a simulation and changing the art form and going about the same exact act (watching/consuming child porn if it’s not obvious enough for you) aren’t the same thing.

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          What if child porn is made without hurting the kid? Isn’t it still child porn?

          Do you see how stupid this sounds yet?

          And about the video game thing? Drop it because even if you do go there you kinda just prove my point. Humans have done combat sports for how long now? And the reason you play it in game is to simulate doing it in real life because YOU WANT TO DO IT! but what you’re missing is the when and where part. War has a place and so does self defense and combat sports. What place does fucking a child have? You’re looking at the drawing because you want to fuck little kids. You would play the game for the same exact reason but riddle me this……. When is that behavior EVER justified?

          Me playing cod because I think combat is cool and can protect my family has a valid place in society. You fucking kids doesn’t.

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            What if child porn is made without hurting the kid? Isn’t it still child porn?

            Do you see how stupid this sounds yet?

            And about the video game thing? Drop it because even if you do go there you kinda just prove my point. Humans have done combat sports for how long now? And the reason you play it in game is to simulate doing it in real life because YOU WANT TO DO IT! but what you’re missing is the when and where part. War has a place and so does self defense and combat sports. What place does fucking a child have? You’re looking at the drawing because you want to fuck little kids. You would play the game for the same exact reason but riddle me this……. When is that behavior EVER justified?

            Me playing cod because I think combat is cool and can protect my family has a valid place in society. You fucking kids doesn’t.

            Going back up the argument chain, if it’s not hurting anyone, the only problem (in your words) would be the temptation aspect, and here I fail to see how a child sex simulation leading to the consumption/creation of CSEM would be any different than a war crimes simulation in leading to the consumption/creation of war crimes, for example.

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              The difference, again, is that given the correct conditions combat is justified. The story of the game could matter much less because you could just simply enjoy the combat. And there is more than one reason someone could enjoy combat outside of “I want to randomly shoot people” and I clearly stated a few of them. I’ll ask again. When is it EVER SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE TO BE ATTRACTED TO AND FUCK KIDS?!

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              Ah so basically if someone gets kids to have sex and record it and “none of them get hurt” then I guess it’s okay then right?

              Justifying something that majority of society see as a problem in YOUR mind doesn’t suddenly make it socially acceptable and okay……… y’all still sick and most of society would still agree that this shit is wrong.

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                Ah so basically if someone gets kids to have sex and record it and “none of them get hurt” then I guess it’s okay then right?

                Justifying something that majority of society see as a problem in YOUR mind doesn’t suddenly make it socially acceptable and okay……… y’all still sick and most of society would still agree that this shit is wrong.

                Having this being done specifically for recording purposes would definitely fall within the “exploitation” part of CSEM.

                I think we can both agree there’s no place for either child sexual exploitation or war crimes in real life - the popularity of an idea has no relation to how valid it is or should be.

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                  Yup but pretending as if that doesn’t mean you actually want to do it does………. So this is pedo logic? Got it.

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                    If someone plays a super realistic violent video game, does that mean that the person actively participating in shooting and killing depictions of people wants to do those things in real life?