It’s not the kids, not the lurkers, not the mods… y’all just nice people. Lemmy’s got a good vibe going… or at least enough windows that we can close if the vibe gets shit.
Just deleted my reddit account. This is now my new scrolling home… lol
Same. Goodness I love this. It’s so peaceful.
Thank you.
I’m going to leave mine up as a sort of testament to eleven years of my life. My last comment is, and will continue to be unless something drastic changes, some argument I was having with somebody about how to fix housing shortages, like the one in California.
17 days ago as of now. Weird feeling.
I deleted every single comment and post on the seven or so accounts I was able to remember passwords for, and then deleted the accounts. That also meant I got to see about ten years worth of comments and posts. There are some phases of life I’d rather not be preserved for posterity’s sake.
Me too!
Deleted my 9-year account yesterday and never looked back. Reddit has become so toxic these past few weeks and Lemmy has been such a breath of fresh air.
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Yep me too also deleted all posts & comments. Lets hope thry don’t restore them though
Same, I used redact to delete my post and comment history and then deleted my 12 year old account.
Same, I used redact to delete my post and comment history and then deleted my 12 year old account.
I think it’s just survivorship bias, kinda like mastodon. The people inclined to come here are probably anti-corporate, and sick of current social media’s bullshit.
I think the barrier to entry also helps a bit. The folks willing to put up with the rough edges that Lemmy has are also likely willing to participate with the intent of making Lemmy a success rather than just “hangers on” as it were. With a 1600% growth in “active” user population, there are definitely a ton of lurkers, yet. Once it becomes more approachable, we’ll see if the community feeling that Lemmy has begins to tarnish and fade as the volume of interaction and content rises.
I have been thinking this over the past week on reddit every time I see a “Lemmy/Kbin needs to sort out X, Y and Z otherwise it’s going to fail massively.” or “Lemmy/Kbin is impossibly hard to use/sign up for”. Usually with CAPITAL LETTERS and emojis.
Like… ok. I don’t think you’ll be missed with that attitude. At least for the time being.
I read Haiku (OS) has no future recently and I think a similar thing is happening here.
Do we want to “have a future” or do we just want to be a cool place doing cool shit for ourselves?
Yeah “having a future” is always under the lens of “marketable/corporate profits” anyway. Some people don’t understand that sometimes, humans just want to build nice things because they want to!
If a person if truly interested in moving to a place with better discourse, they’ll make the effort. If not, they should stay on Reddit.
To be fair, I had some of those complaints with the instances initially being linked. It clicked when RIF linked to Lemmy.World in its final update message. It didn’t have dumbass hoops to go through, just a straight forward email, username, password, you’re in system like the first few things I was seeing. That and many people were over explaining it and just confusing the hell out of people.
I was thinking the same, especially after seeing several posts “demanding” Lemmy to change this and change that.
I mean, that’s not to say there’s no room for improvements, but if the first thing some people do when going to a new platform is wanting changes to meet their personal way of doing things, instead to try and adapt first to how the platform works and learn from it, in my opinion it means those people are not really interested in being here and make lemmy succeed, they’re just following the “flavor of the month” and won’t last long here anyway.
I think the fediverse being not so intuitive might be a very good thing actually, it can act as a sort of filter so it doesn’t succumb to the masses ruining everything, hopefully.
Sometimes I worry I might be being too snobby by thinking it’s a good thing there’s a small barrier to entry here, but the quality of the discourse is SO much better than Reddit it’s hard to argue with the results.
Totally agree, it’s amazing how many people can be discouraged by a small bump over the road. Kinda like how free mobile games have millions of downloads but games that are like, a dollar, are lucky if hit a thousand (and the gap in quality is astounding most of the time).
The barrier isnt that high in my opinion at least. Its just signing up to any instance in lemmy and thats it. I choose shitjustworks cuz they seemed level headed and i heard some nasty rumors about some of the other bigger lemmy instances so that was another factor on it i guess.
I’ll admit I like having a pretty interface to interact with so I hesitated to make my account until I found Connect for Lemmy. Looks nice and easy to get used to
I’m excited about the fact that people who are anti-corporate usually are the same people that will moderate and build community for free just because they want to be a part of something bigger than themselves. If all content creators and moderators find their home here Reddit will only have takers and lurkers left!
I know I’m being naive but I’m enjoying my little dream of utopia 😄
I’m just here because of Reddit dick move, not that I hate all companies, the transition was quite nice that is to projects like https://wefwef.app and the upcoming Sync for Lemmy!
prob cuz everyone who’s still on reddit has the shit vibe
I asked the people there some stuff and I got downvoted for everything I said and then I said something and they said unironically: whats wrong with being selfish? That made me a bit angry
There’s plenty of shit fringe lunatics here already also.
Heavily weilding that hammer and sickle mentality that they keep telling themselves is mainstream.
Wouldn’t be the same without em lol. As long as they are not the majority!
Lol there are political extremists or all kinds but I sure learned about a few new ones. I for one am avoiding all that nonsense for my own sanity.
In Italy we call it “mountain path behavior”: just like in our mountain paths, as long as it is few people you meet you behave cordially and in a friendly manner, but it changes when the number of people goes up.
This is a great term. Thank you for sharing. My first upvoted comment on Lemmy.
I know what you mean, it feels like we’re all on an adventure together to discover what the new front page of the internet will be!
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I just got Children of Ruin vibes from your comment.
“We’re going on an adventure”
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It reminds me of internet forums of the days of yore that are long gone. People answering each other’s questions. No need for moderators to have rules like, “don’t call each other names” blah blah blah. It’s kind of funny, but you know, the Internet had a dark age when everyone was nicer to each other. Lemmy brings that kind of social interaction back to the fore. In another stream, someone disagreed with me and did it nicely and I learned something. Give me more of THIS. And give me less of people replying with “this”
this
Exactly!
So this
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Browsing forums as a 12 year old and finding the piracy forums was quite an eye opening experience. Such friendly fellows also.
I can’t speak for everyone. I’ve been lurking for the past couple weeks and just signed up yesterday. The prevailing attitude I’ve noticed is that people realize just how much of a toxic hog lagoon reddit has become, and are glad to participate in a community that isn’t. It’s nice to be somewhere that isn’t full of bots and doesn’t coddle nazis.
I also think it helps that most of the onboarding literature is frontloaded with “this is how federation works” instead of jumping right in to “here’s how you sign up and use lemmy.” Effectively scares off the reading-averse.
If considering that to be a plus makes me an elitist, I’m ok with that.
It’s nice to be somewhere that isn’t full of bots and doesn’t coddle nazis
Depends on instance…
My last one wouldn’t defederate from a shitshow instance full of transphobia, threats of violence, and basically anything else you’d see on 4chan.
Apparently all that was just a “difference of opinions” so my old instance said it was fine.
The problematic instance also had a lot of posts shitting on this one for defederating them, so I just signed up a new account here.
I think that’s the best part of Lemmy, it’s easy to just drop an instance and find another that aligns more with what you want out of it.
A decade from now if the biggest instance pulls a spez, everyone would just move to a new instance
This is really such a great example for why Fediverse and FOSS in general are the superior and much healthier way for society’s social media interactions to go. Hopefully, some day in the near future, unprofitable social media monoliths like Meta, Twitter and Reddit will be so blatantly exploiting of their user base that even normies migrate to free software alternatives and the era of ultra-capitalist mega-corporations in social media encouraging hate and toxicity will finally be over.
Depends on instance…
Fair enough. And like you said, if an instance becomes toxic enough, no one will want to federate with them, and users will switch from instances that do to instances that don’t.
“Lemmy. For those who read good.”
toxic hog lagoon
Lemmy reminds me of how Reddit felt between 2008 ~ 2013ish.
There seems to be a disproportionate number of longtime Reddit users defecting to Lemmy and I think that the self-selecting nature of Lemmites(?) is why there are such great vibes here.
Reddit is dead. Long live Lemmy!
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I mean the lack of ads DOES help though.
It also feels faster when loading, though slower when you enter a post or save a comment.
I guess reading data must be easier than writing data
Ahhhhhh. This feels better. shakes all the reddit off
we will be forever free of the existential burden of being redditors
And now we shall be - um… er… uhhhh… Lemmytors??
Lemmings?
I like this one a lot!!
It was almost … too easy
Sounds good, but one definition of lemming is:
a person who unthinkingly joins a mass movement, especially a headlong rush to destruction. "the flailings of the lemmings on
Lemmings unite!
Lemmings!!! 😁❤️
Thank god I found Lemmy, because if I didn’t it probably would have only been a matter of hours before I caved and reinstalled Reddit on my phone at work.
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I think it’s partly a selection effect of who bothered to come here. On the positive end, scrolling All is more likely to show things relevant to me I wouldn’t have found.
On the negative end there are few comments to interact wjth
One time, when runescape did a supermassive bot ban, people began complaining that once crowded areas of the game felt eerily empty now that only real people were there.
Not to say reddit is all bots, but my experience with Lemmy so far has been that it’s less crowded but the people here feel very sincere. Not a terrible thing. Still have more scrolling and reading to do than I have time to do it, and the quality seems even better.
supermassive bot ban
The Muse cover that no-one expected
There’s a happy medium… where, new people coming in will start to post too much content, but engagement will happen quite often. Where most of the trolls and angry people will still be on reddit and places yonder.
and we’ll pass right by it and become the 800lb gorilla.
This moment, right now, is the golden era. Savor it. A Million monkeys hammering out Shakespeare are eyeing the gates, the only thing holding them back is the fear of the word federation.
Wow… I think this monkey hammered out some Shakespeare.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times.
There is an advantage to that though, on Reddit by the time a post reached my front page it was several hours old and had so many comments it wasn’t worth me commenting on. On here people are much more likely to actually see my comments
Personally, and I am bias, I think everyone here is nice and chill because everyone who actually dropped Reddit are principled enough to not just say they hate a change and then do nothing about it.
I think you’re spot on. Loving this new home. Here’s to a bright future in the Fediverse.
Yep, exactly. The people that want a better Internet, my kinda people.
Reddit is too popular and has too much group think, too many of the same types of comments that will get a lot karma, and too many comments that will just be ignored.
NEW is a garbage dump or a pile of duplicates. So why comment on a new post? It will never go anywhere. HOT is already full of comments, so your comment will just be lost.
Do upvotes and downvotes work the same way here? If so, I fear that communities may become echo chambers too, in time.
In a post and comment, yes. However your up vote vs down vote counts are not stored on your profile. It reduces the game-ification of the interactions.
It also depends where you’re reading from. Mastodon doesn’t sort at all, Kbin sorts differently from Lemmy, and one Lemmy instance might differ from the next. Even vote counts might differ between servers.
In the end, the user experience here will be much more individual than on Reddit. What is the top post for you might not be the top post for me. :)
I’m already noticing tons of comments getting down voted for seemingly just because people disagree so human nature makes a proper discussion difficult
They don’t have the same power over here. Especially on kbin where they pretty much equal “thank you for posting” and that’s about it. Boosting is where you become the algorithm and say “I think others need to see this!”
Agreed. I felt like I lurked reddit a lot because I felt like my thought was already found wherever I went unless I was the first one to comment. It’s nice to see a comment section that is growing but not thousands of other thoughts already in it within an hour or so.
Agreed. On reddit each community has one way it thinks and screw you if you don’t have the same opinion on something. People here are more civil and willing to have a discussion over disagreements.
I just hope the alt right doesn’t latch on - but w/ this being the Fediverse we can at least use reason & spin them off in their own little corner… for better or worse. (Better for us & worse for them)
I don’t know what else is the answer though - they either drag us down w/ them or we rise above it & leave them to wallow in their messed up world views.
If this turns into an Odysee then this will be a very sad place built w/ good intentions.
I haven’t really looked at Odysee. I feel like I’ve seen some Linux Youtubers mention that they post videos there too. What’s bad about it?
The alt right already knows about the fediverse and has instances out there. But because this place was built with marginalized people in mind, it’s easy to make them go away, on an individual level as well as an instance level.
So what happens is they pretty quickly get stuck in their own little corner unable able to interact with the rest of us. I honestly think removing all that negativity and hatred is what keeps this place a generally friendly and welcoming place.
I’m hoping it takes off. It’s a confusing start but seems alright once you have a grasp.
The grasp I’m trying to get ahold of is where to locate where everyone jumped ship to? Is there a master list or do you just gotta hunt and hope for the best?
The instance you make your account on doesn’t matter, as they’re federated you can see and interact with posts from anywhere else.
You can check out the Lemmy community browser to see a list of the most visited communities, then search for them in https://lemmy.world/search to subscribe/post/comment. (note: beehaw.org communities arent accessible from lemmy.world, so ignore those)
Very helpful. Thank you so much!🍻
Appreciate the help. If you would be so kind on clearing up one more thing… how the fuck do I subscribe to stuff? I’m on mobile and can’t figure it out. I really feel out of touch my god it’s happening!
If the sub is on the instance you’re logged-in to (lemmy.works for you, I assume), then you just need to expand the “Sidebar” tab and tap “Subscribe”.
If it’s on another instance, you have to navigate to https://lemmy.world/c/sub@instance. So the main sub for sh.itjust.works would become (https://lemmy.world/c/main@sh.itjust.works)[https://lemmy.world/c/main@sh.itjust.works] THEN go into the sidebar and the “Subscribe” button will be there. I think of it as just using a different door to get to the same content. And at this door you know the bouncer.
Alternatively, the sorta short linked version within lemmy would be !sub@instance . So that would look like (!main@sh.itjust.works)[!main@sh.itjust.works]. You can type that into the search from your main instance and the first result should be a link. That link will take you to a version of the sub with the same “Subscribe” option under the sidebar tab. Hope this helps!
Try wefwef! It’s a web app, subscribing and everything else is very intuitive.
Helps to find communities you know from Reddit.
Theres a feeling of relief when you find the people (or bots) you once interacted with on reddit.
I mean, its not actually the same people, but when I saw the patientgamers community yesterday, I remember the feeling when I transferred schools expecting I’m going to be alone but theres that familiar face that welcomed me.
