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What, are you just leaving out the enormous costs of the Vietnam, Korean and Cold Wars? The Gulf War?
America has hugely benefited from warfare.
Missing the point on purpose there to fit your agenda? OP is CLEARLY talking about nextdoor neighbors. When Vietnam moves continents, you let us know…
Quick edit - I upvoted your comment on JAG at Gitmo and DeSantis being a black hole for ethics, so I"m genuinely wondering why you’re making the point about the Us and Wars.
The original comment that you replied to might just be a disjointed AI comment.
This is the guy who was the JAG at Gitmo during the torture debacle, right? Just checking.
He is the antithesis of ethics.
And this should be the only thing anyone needs to dislike him.
Why does Florida have missiles?
Outside of any in a military base, he doesn’t. It was a question about if he would authorize an aerial attack if he were voted president…
That said… he’s an idiot for even thinking that would be a good idea
How do people see shit like this and then think he is a good choice for president???
Because they are bullies at heart and the look at the current and past administrations and think they don’t bully people enough so when someone offers to be a bully, and represent their interests in a violent manner, they get a hard-on.
I was raised to believe that we’re all decent people at heart but to be honest the last 10 years have changed my mind about that. I think some people are just bad eggs now. I’m not proposing to do anything about it but it’s just depressing to realize that some people suck beyond the reach of society.
Great comment, and I share a lot of that sentiment. What always confounded me was what portion of these people are textbook evil (eg, psychopathic, greedy/selfish, etc.) versus gullible and ignorant. That is, what percent if we had enough time and educated them enough could we reach? I say this as someone who grew up in a rural Appalachia republican household. My family voted for Bush. My parents marched in pro-life rallies. But fortunately thanks to a couple different factors, my entire family pivoted 180 to become progressive Dems. So they’re out there…
Regardless I don’t believe it’s worth the time to try changing them. I think efforts are better utilized in appealing to the newcomers of politics and fence sitters who haven’t been fully sucker into the right-wing echochamber.
We seem to share some similar vectors here, beyond the point of coincidence IMHO. Upstare NY raised. I still remember mom taking the 3 of us out to picket. Ill never ever ever forget how it felt holding the picket signs of fetus remains, while standing outside abortion clinics heckling young women as they scurried past sobbing. I’m still trying to forgive myself for it, even though I was too young to have any say in the matter.
Sadly, most if my family is still grazing the fatty grasses of self indulgent politics. A lifetime of obvious hypocrisy was enough to sour my tastebuds on the matters at hand.
I don’t see it as a equation about “is the effort worth it”, it’s really more that I don’t feel I have a right to tell others how to feel or act or exist. It’s half the issue I have with their stance; they feel they do have that right.
If he gets elected, Russia is going to have nuclear missles stationed in Florida for use agaisted Cuba.
We shouldn’t rule out tossing DeSantis into the sun.
Don’t waste the energy, just hand him over to the cartels.
I don’t like DeSantis either but if you read the article, the question itself was loaded. I mean the headlines are a slippery slope argument
“Depending on the circumstances, I would be open to using whatever means available based on our goals and the guidance provided by advisors, including military leadership.”
Headline: “Politician doesn’t rule out using nuclear weapons against Canada!!!”
Remember when the “Up the Ante” was Scott Walker saying he wanted to build a wall on the border with Canada?
Good times…
How would launching missiles to deal with the Mexican cartel help anyone? Yes, you might end up killing some cartel members near the border, but what happens if you end up hurting civilians that get caught in the crossfire?
There is also no guarantees the cartels won’t wise up to this and just start taking and using civilians as meat shields in order to make the soldiers launching the missiles and shooting at them look bad on both sides.
There’s a greentext going around comparing the Russian invasion of Ukraine to the US invading Mexico and I’m really scared DeSantis is trying to make it come true.
Nearly all of my friends are Mexican citizens that moved to the States for work or folks that have family in Mexico. Why the fuck does DeSantis think like this? Hell even the conservative Latinos in the border states couldn’t support this nonsense right?
Never underestimate the stupidity of a conservative regardless of their heritage.
I wonder what the US government would do if Florida went rogue and started shooting missiles at Mexico?
I was going to visit FL in a few weeks, but now I don’t feel it’s even safe to visit…
But has the US ruled out using missiles on desantis
Seriously though, look at the terror Ukraine has been able to accomplish inside Russia with a hell of a lot less than what Mexico has. You guys want missiles blowing shit up in San Antonio and phoenix?
The cartels have been VERY careful keeping their violence on the Mexican side of the border, and not kidnapping Americans (usually), because there’s no better way to get yourself connected to God’s wifi. A war would basically throw all that out the window. The border towns like San Antonio would erupt with the same sort of cartel violence you see already in Mexico. Families of soldiers in those areas would find themselves turning into targets.
DeSantis refuses to rule out nuking the moon.
He’s basically a Mr Show sketch.
That’s… that’s just great Ron. Hey, ya figure they might shoot back? With their army and navy that they definitely have? Dumb motherfucker.
I’m starting to think we should shoot missiles at Ron DeSantis
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His full quote…
“We would use all available — the tactics, I think, can be debated. If you have something you want to accomplish, people would brief you on the different ways you’d be able to do it,” DeSantis said. “So, that would be dependent on the situation.”
