This is what happens when you don’t bring the fucking hammer down on violent authoritarian fascists. Who has to die to make it clear that this sack of shit needs to be bound and gagged while his trial proceeds?
Well, wouldn’t language have to concede that if I asked how many presidents there have been, I would be asking a different question than how many presidencies there have been?
Garland would have to care and treats him and other Republicans with kid gloves. The kid whom leaked documents was insta-prison. Yet Trump sold out the entire country and the DOJ is Zz z.
Yeah Snowden is still hiding out in countries that don’t extradite to us. Manning is free, but it’s pretty clear that her time in prison had serious lasting damage to her mind. Both of them had good reasons to leak and did their best to minimize unnecessary damage. Meanwhile this chucklefuck is campaigning and threatening.
If democracy dies it will be because we punished those who broke the rules to strengthen it and defended those who broke the rules to destroy it.
Playing devils advocate here, Trump has a history of wriggling out of what looked like slam dunk cases against him, and being an ex-president comes with truck loads of political baggage, so the DOJ might just be playing things extra-careful. It would make sense for them to double and triple check everything, dot all their i’s and cross all their t’s, and make sure everything is as utterly airtight as they can make it. The real danger is that they don’t go so slow that the whole thing becomes moot because they took so long that Trump managed to make himself dictator in chief.
It would make sense for them to double and triple check everything, dot all their i’s and cross all their t’s, and make sure everything is as utterly airtight as they can make it.
absolutely. and he got impeached twice, so he’s been playing safe.
The president also is ultimately the head of the “Departments” to include the Dept of Defense. All of the clearances and document classifications exist via presidential authority, so there are some genuine questions as to if a President can snap his fingers and change a classification, and how those rules interact with other laws about unauthorized disclosures. Which is also why Trump getting elected was such a coup for the Russians, as was a strongly Republican Supreme Court (who could bail him out if/when it gets to SCOTUS).
Exactly. Imagine how the intelligence community would have to treat classified information if it could be declassified purely by a President waking up and thinking “it’s declassified.” Nobody would know what is still classified and what isn’t. Classified information might get leaked out because of a rumor that the President declassified something. Declassified information might still be treated as classified by some because nobody knows what is and what isn’t classified.
There’s a process for a reason. Trump suggesting he can just “think” it declassified is totally ridiculous.
I’m not defending him, but it much more complicated with a former president and presidential candidate than it is for others. There shouldn’t be two systems, but realistically one could result in civil war and the other is little more than a couple of extra clicks on a website for most people.
My god, if some liberals had their way, rushed this, we’d lose this one. And this is a fight America cannot afford to lose.
I don’t want to sound like a drama queen, but I see the signs of PTSD in myself after the pandemic and 01/06. Let’s just say I have plenty of life experience, 52-years of an, uh, adventurous life, that maybe should have put a touch of PTSD on me. But those two things permanently fucked my skull.
I’ve waited for justice this long, I can wait some more. The scariest proposition is that he wins the White House and attempts to pardon himself. That would be a constitutional crisis the likes of which I’ve never seen. And people thought Watergate was such a crisis…
That’s not a problem. Anyone can campaign at any time. That’s totally legal and fine.
What’s absolutely absurd is the level of support he still gets from Republicans! He owns them.
If some former Democrat president did this stuff the support from Democrats for that person would be near zero. No one would consider such a candidacy even remotely within the realm of possibility.
Republicans just don’t give a shit about corruption. Some will see this statement and say, “no, they care about it when it’s not one of their people” but that’s 100% the same thing. Corruption is all about picking winners and losers based on what your side thinks of them.
I’m curious what percentage of republicans actually support him vs what percentage only pretends to support him under duress because of violent threats from the crazies.
It’s tribalism. I went to a racetrack last weekend. These people wave Trump flags and wear profane Brandon shirts to fit in with each other. The madder you are, the “smarter” you are. Another Lemming recently said, the founding father’s failed to anticipate that voters would fail at their job, and he’s 1 million percent dead on.
They anticipated it. That, and classism, are why they instituted The Electoral College. They didn’t have access to the mathematical theories that proved that FPTP elections are always going to cause a two party system, and the people will inevitably lose to the owners. That may have influenced them to consider RCV, or some other voting methods.
He’s allowed to campaign from prison if convicted, too. Eugene Debs did it, after all. Logistically, I’m not sure how it’d work with a former president. If he’s ever locked up, it’s going to have to be in a supermax, for his own safety. The Unabomber’s old cell in ADX Florence will be the perfect fit for the needs of a former president and fellow Ivy League graduate! But at any rate, there’s no law stopping him from campaigning by mail.
Remember when politicians at the peaks of their careers resigned over a foot in their mouth, a mispronunciation (or spelling potatoe), being exposed for being a dick?
Mf is giving handjobs in front of kids talking about trans pedophiles and she’s not even reprimanded.
Its crazy how much leeway he is getting. Back during the Bush years a guy in my town had a hang bush sign on a cardboard cutout of him hanging from a tree. The dude was arrested and held for “terrorist threats.” The same was not true of similar threats made toward Obama. This was in liberal western Washington. The fascists have always gotten handled with kid gloves in this country and it seriously needs to be addressed if we have any hope of coming out the other side.
Not that I Don’t agree with you and this orange fuck just should not be allowed to be on any form of media or government, Kathy Griffin did some tasteless stuff on Twitter about beheading Trump and wasn’t arrested. It was tasteless but literally everything trump does is classless and tasteless.
I don’t, it was back in like 2002-3 and the local paper doesn’t have their archives up anymore. He ended up having the charges dropped, but months later.
Not who…rather what? It seems like it is our democracy is the one that has to die simply because we aren’t willing to absolutely hammer home the point that these fascist fucks are not welcome. Every last one of those J6 people should have been executed in public.
This is what happens when you don’t bring the fucking hammer down on violent authoritarian fascists. Who has to die to make it clear that this sack of shit needs to be bound and gagged while his trial proceeds?
The fact that he’s still campaigning with ninety fucking Federal charges against him is absolutely absurd.
Ninety-one. Accuracy is important.
Ah yes, my mistake
It brings the presidential average above 2!
A fellow history enjoyer who does not double count Cleveland.
Well, wouldn’t language have to concede that if I asked how many presidents there have been, I would be asking a different question than how many presidencies there have been?
The answer to both of those are more than two.
Possibly at least three.
Garland would have to care and treats him and other Republicans with kid gloves. The kid whom leaked documents was insta-prison. Yet Trump sold out the entire country and the DOJ is Zz z.
Yeah Snowden is still hiding out in countries that don’t extradite to us. Manning is free, but it’s pretty clear that her time in prison had serious lasting damage to her mind. Both of them had good reasons to leak and did their best to minimize unnecessary damage. Meanwhile this chucklefuck is campaigning and threatening.
If democracy dies it will be because we punished those who broke the rules to strengthen it and defended those who broke the rules to destroy it.
That last sentence is so true that it’s chilling.
What a bar. We need to get this on a mountain or something.
Playing devils advocate here, Trump has a history of wriggling out of what looked like slam dunk cases against him, and being an ex-president comes with truck loads of political baggage, so the DOJ might just be playing things extra-careful. It would make sense for them to double and triple check everything, dot all their i’s and cross all their t’s, and make sure everything is as utterly airtight as they can make it. The real danger is that they don’t go so slow that the whole thing becomes moot because they took so long that Trump managed to make himself dictator in chief.
absolutely. and he got impeached twice, so he’s been playing safe.
The president also is ultimately the head of the “Departments” to include the Dept of Defense. All of the clearances and document classifications exist via presidential authority, so there are some genuine questions as to if a President can snap his fingers and change a classification, and how those rules interact with other laws about unauthorized disclosures. Which is also why Trump getting elected was such a coup for the Russians, as was a strongly Republican Supreme Court (who could bail him out if/when it gets to SCOTUS).
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Exactly. Imagine how the intelligence community would have to treat classified information if it could be declassified purely by a President waking up and thinking “it’s declassified.” Nobody would know what is still classified and what isn’t. Classified information might get leaked out because of a rumor that the President declassified something. Declassified information might still be treated as classified by some because nobody knows what is and what isn’t classified.
There’s a process for a reason. Trump suggesting he can just “think” it declassified is totally ridiculous.
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I’m not defending him, but it much more complicated with a former president and presidential candidate than it is for others. There shouldn’t be two systems, but realistically one could result in civil war and the other is little more than a couple of extra clicks on a website for most people.
My god, if some liberals had their way, rushed this, we’d lose this one. And this is a fight America cannot afford to lose.
I don’t want to sound like a drama queen, but I see the signs of PTSD in myself after the pandemic and 01/06. Let’s just say I have plenty of life experience, 52-years of an, uh, adventurous life, that maybe should have put a touch of PTSD on me. But those two things permanently fucked my skull.
I’ve waited for justice this long, I can wait some more. The scariest proposition is that he wins the White House and attempts to pardon himself. That would be a constitutional crisis the likes of which I’ve never seen. And people thought Watergate was such a crisis…
A lot of those charges are state charges, which as far as I know aren’t pardonable by anyone but the governors (in most cases).
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That’s not a problem. Anyone can campaign at any time. That’s totally legal and fine.
What’s absolutely absurd is the level of support he still gets from Republicans! He owns them.
If some former Democrat president did this stuff the support from Democrats for that person would be near zero. No one would consider such a candidacy even remotely within the realm of possibility.
Republicans just don’t give a shit about corruption. Some will see this statement and say, “no, they care about it when it’s not one of their people” but that’s 100% the same thing. Corruption is all about picking winners and losers based on what your side thinks of them.
I mean, we’ve literally already established that overt corruption “just makes you smart.”
This is what republicans are voting for. They are fine with corruption if it means they win.
I’m curious what percentage of republicans actually support him vs what percentage only pretends to support him under duress because of violent threats from the crazies.
It’s tribalism. I went to a racetrack last weekend. These people wave Trump flags and wear profane Brandon shirts to fit in with each other. The madder you are, the “smarter” you are. Another Lemming recently said, the founding father’s failed to anticipate that voters would fail at their job, and he’s 1 million percent dead on.
They anticipated it. That, and classism, are why they instituted The Electoral College. They didn’t have access to the mathematical theories that proved that FPTP elections are always going to cause a two party system, and the people will inevitably lose to the owners. That may have influenced them to consider RCV, or some other voting methods.
And I want to know how many of them are incredibly fucking clueless
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And his cult still carries on. And those traitorous fuckers have the gall to call themselves patriots.
He’s allowed to campaign from prison if convicted, too. Eugene Debs did it, after all. Logistically, I’m not sure how it’d work with a former president. If he’s ever locked up, it’s going to have to be in a supermax, for his own safety. The Unabomber’s old cell in ADX Florence will be the perfect fit for the needs of a former president and fellow Ivy League graduate! But at any rate, there’s no law stopping him from campaigning by mail.
Remember when politicians at the peaks of their careers resigned over a foot in their mouth, a mispronunciation (or spelling potatoe), being exposed for being a dick?
Mf is giving handjobs in front of kids talking about trans pedophiles and she’s not even reprimanded.
Its crazy how much leeway he is getting. Back during the Bush years a guy in my town had a hang bush sign on a cardboard cutout of him hanging from a tree. The dude was arrested and held for “terrorist threats.” The same was not true of similar threats made toward Obama. This was in liberal western Washington. The fascists have always gotten handled with kid gloves in this country and it seriously needs to be addressed if we have any hope of coming out the other side.
Not that I Don’t agree with you and this orange fuck just should not be allowed to be on any form of media or government, Kathy Griffin did some tasteless stuff on Twitter about beheading Trump and wasn’t arrested. It was tasteless but literally everything trump does is classless and tasteless.
Do you have a source for this? I’m not saying you’re lying, that’s just pretty flagrant 1A abuse and I’m curious to read more
I don’t, it was back in like 2002-3 and the local paper doesn’t have their archives up anymore. He ended up having the charges dropped, but months later.
I remember hearing warnings about things like this in the early 2000s,but I never witnessed anything. Post 2001 was a strange time.
So @BolexForSoup was correct in their assumption? 1A abuse?
OTOH, I would think that sort of speech is covered by laws threatening government officials?
But if we start punishing rich people for crimes, what’s next? Punishing other rich people for their crimes?
Yeah, the only thing the rich truly fear is consequences for their actions.
Daily reminder to fucking kill the rich
Chairman Milley, obviously. RTFA! \s
Orange shitstain’s record already includes 1M+ Americans dead from his bullshit handling of covid
I’m still amazed this isn’t on billboards everywhere or the topic of some federal investigation. It’s like it never happened.
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Not who…rather what? It seems like it is our democracy is the one that has to die simply because we aren’t willing to absolutely hammer home the point that these fascist fucks are not welcome. Every last one of those J6 people should have been executed in public.