“The resonance density sounds watered down. Were these grapes picked in the rainy season?”
“No, the glass shape was chosen because it flattens the resonance to match the acoustics of the barrels. You’re hearing it just as the creators intended.”
So I’ve done a lot of world traveling. Now when I’m with my friends, who have never left the US, I ironically act snobby about dumb shit. “This pizza isn’t as good as the pizza I had in Italy” “This isn’t as good as German beer” “This sushi isn’t like the real sushi in Japan” “if this spider was from Australia I’d already be dead”
I hope they know you’re joking otherwise you might come off as a bit of an asshole
I bet they love it
You call this a mugging? In Belfast, they have real muggings!
Pff that’s nothing like the guns they have in Switzerland!
School shooting? Meh, in Czech Republic they shoot up universities!
When I was 7 years old, we took a trip to Italy. While in Rome, near the Vatican, we saw a street cart selling pizza. Because I was 8 and all I had to eat was Italian food for days, I asked for the pizza.
It was, and I still say this 39 years later, the absolute worst pizza I have ever had in my life.
Do not eat American-style pizza in Italy.
You are supposed to eat the Italian style pizza
I was 7!
Were you 7 or 8?
God I don’t remember. I’m 46 now. Asking me to be consistent about my age in my memory is a fool’s errand.
In fairness, if someone did this I’d probably do the same… Not because I thought there was anything to it or to fit in, but I’d think “huh, now I wonder what it sounds like. Does it make a cool sound?”
I don’t think it’s group think so much as it’s a social learning behavior. If you see someone do something confidently and appear satisfied with the result, you’ll start to wonder if you should try it… It seems to be working for them
Hell, just talking about it is making me wanna try, lol.
And we all know some wines do make a sound, like sparkling wines, so maybe you could hear some bubbles in a less sparkly wine too? I will try it next time I’m having wine.
S-staff tastings? 😳
Nothing boosts employee morale like gathering around a large helping of roast Doug!
large helping of roast Doug!
What did Doug do? 😰
Look the tastiest.
He won most likely to resemble wagu long pork.
If you sell wine it helps to know what it tastes of, so you can authorize purchase of and recommend certain wines to customers.
This applies mainly to restaurants and upscale wine stores, not so much to the corner liquor store where the hot seller is the box of “white wine” on the bottom shelf near the door.
Sushi in one line.
Pineapple cream in the other.
When I worked at a liquor store in the early 2000’s, we were sent to liquor/wine tastings every couple of months or so. The owner didn’t like schmoozing with salespeople, plus it was a good way to make sure we knew what we were selling. It was also a test to make sure you could hold your liquor and remain professional. Distributors would often regularly bring new products into the store for whichever staff was there to try.
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You can tell at what altitude the terrior was tilled due to minute variances in air pressure in the environment that make its way into the fruit. The feeling is similar to, if not characteristic of, the feeling of ears popping in an aircraft climbing to cruising altitude. It’s nuanced, subtle even, but to the trained aural canal, not difficult to discern.
Also notes of elderberry
This is what I don’t get about wine snobs-
If it tastes good, who cares how old or new it is, what sort of grapes it comes from, what it was aged in, how much it costs, etc.? Just find a wine you like the taste of and drink that one. And yet they seem to think there’s more to it than ‘I like how this tastes.’
Let me preface this - I don’t consider myself a wine snob by any means.
My wife and I went to wine country a year or so ago and went to some wineries to do tasting tours. We learned quite a lot. For instance, I can now taste the difference between good wine and bad. It basically comes down to the complexity of the flavors. If the wine is good, you can distinguish multiple flavors. If it is not, it just tastes like wine.
As for why people care about where the grapes were grown and that mumobojumbo it is so they can try and correlate their tastes to things they know about wine. “Oh I oiked that bottle - it was a so and so from wherever made from this interesting blend of grapes” so they try other wines from that area or made with similar grapes.
Real connoisseurs can tell the difference. Most make shit up and can’t identify whether a wine is white or red in a blind taste test. Everyone else is just looking for something to snoot about while drinking with their buddies and show off how expensive their supposed tastes are.
Me, personally, I like “earthy” red wines. I don’t really know what that means specifically - that’s what the sommelier said when I told him which of the bottles I preferred and the reasons why I enjoyed those particular wines. Ok. That being said, I’ll drink boxed wine and sometimes I’ll spend $60 on a nice bottle to share on a special occasion.
That being said, I’ll drink boxed wine and sometimes I’ll spend $60 on a nice bottle to share on a special occasion.
That sort of supports what I’m saying though. You drink wines that you think taste good, not wines that are supposed to be special just because of their pedigree. Those are the wines that get sold to wine snobs for $10,000. That’s the sort of thing I’m talking about.
There’s huge difference between expensive wines and outrageously prices ones.
The ones costing thousands or tens of thousands are always in some way extremely rare sorts, crazy example is the bottles found in Titanic’s wreck.
The trick to it is to generate a vocabulary so you can describe what you like and then get more. For example, I like a red with a lot of tannins, cherry flavors, very smooth, and maybe some pepper to it. Usually some kind of Cabernet or Merlot. I’ve tasted both $5 and $75 bottles that I like. I can go to a wine shop in a new town, give them the description above, and they can point me to something like that.
Don’t have to be a snob to do this. The description I gave might not be your preference, but going through the same process will find you both $5 and $75 bottles that you like. Don’t worry about ratings in web sites or wherever. They’re useless for finding what you like.
I guess it kinda makes sense for the people who can actually taste the difference, which is almost nobody. That’s pretty impressive to me, like they clearly trained for that.
So, someone who can actually prove they can tell the difference, I’d let them snob all they want, they earned. But most people are faking it, they have no clue. They just see an expensive price tag and go “oh, remarkable”
No one was kicked out of a winery for laughing too hard.
I would bet it was not for the laughing. More likely it was for spilling wine all over one’s self this making them believe you to be too drunk. Or at least that’s the excuse, I bet the real reason was they were made to feel stupid by the listening to booze thing.
I believed the story until they spilled wine everywhere from laughing and got kicked out. It was an entertaining story until they went too far and blew it.
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I’ve stopped listening to my wine. It kept telling me to kill people.
That is what we describe as “pretentiousness”. Professional wine tasting is full of it.
If I see someone doing something weird I’m not against trying it to see if there’s something to it.
Maybe the wine is extra crackly? XD
Tbf if I saw someone do that with their wine I’d wanna do it too, simply to answer the question of “what the fuck is she doing, is there some kind of purpose? What is she trying to hear?”
As a wine snob, I’m not about to listen to my wine.
You’re missing out. Your ears are connected to the back of your throat and your nasal passage. By doing this and sniffing in and out very fast you get the scents directly to the olfactory system, bypassing your already over exposed nose. Just make sure you clean out your ears first.
Your ears are connected to the back of your throat and your nasal passage. By doing this and sniffing in and out very fast you get the scents directly to the olfactory system
This ruptures the ear drum.
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Weird. I’ve been getting http errors in my client. I wonder if that’s doing it
The httpotomus is erroring.
Wine complains too much for my taste.
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I have a very serious problem listening to alcohol. Usually it’s whispering “do some dumb shit, you drunk”.
No, it isn’t
Yes, there are some people who do “wine tasting” just to get shitfaced. But if you go to any ACTUAL wine tasting (whether it is in the back of a Total Wine or at a fancy vineyard), basically everyone is expected to spit out the wine. Depending on the “methodology” you may swallow a small amount, but it is really like one sip per glass/wine.
And the person who does just chug each glass? This isn’t Parks and Recs where everyone bows to the almighty prankster. They get their asses thrown out.
Now, whether people can tell the difference between six different syrahs whether they spit or swallow is a very different topic entirely. But if the goal is to get drunk, “wine tasting” is a horrible way to do it.
As for the why? Alcohol tends to deaden tastebuds. Wine and beer (and sake and the like) tend to be a low enough ABV with a high enough “flavor” level that ti tends to complement a meal. But the more you drink, the less nuance you can taste. Its (arguably) a big part of why the Japanese drink sake from small cups and hoity toity rich people tend to have staff refilling wine glasses to a fairly low level. The idea is you sip throughout the meal to complement the flavors without losing the ability to taste them.
It is also why you should IMMEDIATELY side eye anyone who encourages hard liquor as an accompaniment for a meal and raise an eyebrow if they are cooking with it for any delicate meals. So whiskey plus a slow cooked pork shoulder is one thing (and usually involves using a torch to burn off the alcohol at the start) whereas whiskey and a steak is a whole different one.
This is so dramatic. Wine tasting isn’t full pours. Tasting 5-6 wines is usually 1.5 - 2 glass equivalent. In California I see people drink it all way more than they pour or spit. You are definitely not getting kicked out for drinking wine you paid to try. I don’t even want to touch the braising/deglazing with alcohol part, but it’s also bullshit.
The funniest fucking part about that commenter being so proud of their wine snobbery is that professional sommeliers can’t distinguish $15 wine from $1500 wine in double blind trials
A lot of (particularly California) vineyards will just call their bar a “wine tasting” and charge by the glass. Couple years back I went to a similar setup for sake in Japan and it was awesome but there was almost no focus on even trying to understand the differences between the beverages and it was mostly a way to charge people by the flight.
But for anything that is actually a tasting that would attract “wine snobs” rather than soccer moms: There is generally a big focus on “doing it right”. Partially because they are selling “the experience” but also because those vineyards/selections tend to be geared toward differentiable wines. So you aren’t going to have ten syrahs. You’ll have a merlot, a syrah, maybe a malbec, and so forth. And that lets people learn what kind of wine they actually like while ALSO knowing what bottles they want to buy from said vineyard/store/whatever.
And if you start getting shitfaced at those? Your ass gets thrown out. Because you aren’t going to be in a position to buy a bottle and because you are “ruining the experience”… for the people who are probably going to buy two or three bottles each.
Lots of great dishes use alcohol, especially desserts. My favorite is soaking raisins in a mixture of bourbon and Grand Mariner, and adding them to a rice pudding as soon as it is done cooking. The burst of strong alcohol when you bite into a raisin perfectly complements the sweet and creamy pudding. Plus flambès, marinades, etc.
A “flambe” generally involves igniting the liquor. Which burns away the vast majority of it. I referenced that with slow cooking a pork shoulder as that is a pretty common method since it is a short cut to a “smokey” flavor and gives an opportunity for the good (if a bit harsh) flavors of a whiskey to mingle with everything else in the pot.
And in the case of pudding/ice cream/whatever toppings: The point is the taste of the booze. Not the taste of the rest of the dish. Hence “delicate meals”. Also, you’ll notice that your “favorite” example is a dessert. As in, the thing you eat after the rest of the meal is done. Rum soaked biscuits as an appetizer is more the kind of thing that a mediocre restaurant will do to make you not complain about the mediocre five course meal and so forth.
As for marinades: Really depends on the kind of meat and the kind of cooking. Something that has time for the alcohol to cook off, sure. Although I personally think that means you aren’t confident in the rest of your dish since the actual “flavor” components of most liquors are still pretty strong on their own. But for some chicken breasts people are going to throw on the grill? Might as well serve it with cigars.
I would disagree that the point of a good rice pudding is the taste of the booze. A good rice or bread pudding should have a delicate custard quality to it with subtle vanilla, cinnamon, and possibly bergamot notes. Pairing that with a subtle alcohol flavor is tricky. You can’t just pour some in without overwhelming all the flavor. This isn’t some ice cream ala mode you drench in sauce either. By soaking the raisins in a mix of liquors you introduce the occasional burst of flavor without it seeping into the rest of the dish and taking over.
I’m sure many, maybe most, applications of liquor over power the dishes, but there are subtle uses as well.
Just so you know, your mouth absorbs alcohol too, it doesn’t just happen when you swallow it.
It’s just spoiled grape juice why so angy
Too much wine
No one is “expected” to spit out their wine at 99.9% of wine tastings.
