• Melkath@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    Stop doing that you insufferable pea-brained dolt.

    Not voting for Biden doesn’t mean I’m voting for Trump.

    Idiots like you sit there like your vote is a party popper you MUST use to show if your streamers and confetti are blue or red.

    I am disgusted with the options I am presented with. I get no streamers or confetti…

    Unless Biden condemns the Israeli genocide of Palestine and champions imposing massive embargoes on Israel while fully ceasing any funding in full.

    Then I might believe he (and the DNC) are humbling WAY the fuck up, listening to their constituents, and correcting course is the SMALLEST of ways.

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      6 months ago

      I ask you, if there is one party that tries you stop you from voting in any way they can, doesn’t you not voting play into their hand?

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        Refusing to vote for Evil, any Evil, is a pretty straightforward moral position to take.

        Meanwhile your voting choice requires complex mental gymnastics to justify, which is quite an indication that you’re trying to come up with excuses for yourself for doing what you do not feel is the morally right thing to do.

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      I vote for anyone but Biden, or even a no vote, is a vote for Trump.

      If you think Palestine is in bad shape under Biden, try to imagine how much worse it’d be with Trump.

      The only way to get Democrat candidates on the left is to crush the right wing so that the Overton window moves.

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        6 months ago

        Rewarding parties for doing nothing is good democracy actually 🤓 /s

        If America were a functional democracy the Democrats would actually court voters with real solutions to real problems. That’s not their goal. Let’s not forget that the country was founded as a rich boys club and the founding documents were designed to preserve it as such. That is still true to this day. You can’t pull the Democrats left because that’s not their fucking job

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        6 months ago

        I vote for anyone but Biden, or even a no vote, is a vote for Trump.

        First they think of not voting. That’s one vote for Trump.

        Then they decide to vote for Trump. That’s two votes for Trump!

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        6 months ago

        You are the uncle Tom piece of shit that has lead this country here.

        I do not vote for Biden. I do not vote for Trump.

        You can’t make me.

        Your rhetoric is outdated, idiotic, and counter-productive.

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          One of those two will be president no matter what you do. They will then be in a position capable of inflicting great damage. Trump will use that position to hurt more people than Biden. The math here isn’t complicated, and it continually astounds me how many people on the left cannot actually solve the trolly problem when faced with it for real. It really shows which people are engaged in politics as a means to an end rather than as personal expression or a hobby.

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              I don’t support anyone. I oppose the worst outcome, and seek to steer our course away from it. Only narcissists and hobbyists hyperventilate about who they are “supporting”.

              I engage in politics as a means to an end and nothing more. I take the best option available and I move on to the next task. To do otherwise is to value the self above the collective, and as a communist that is not a luxury I’m afforded.

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          6 months ago

          Nobody is going to make you vote one way or another, but please recognize the following:

          The United States is currently a two party system. It sucks. We need to push for more ranked choice voting, as well as direct popular vote.

          However, until we’re able to achieve something that makes this parties viable, we will continue to have issues with the right wing getting undue influence in our politics.

          Vote with your heart, but make sure that you’re okay with another Trump presidency of you decide not to vote for Biden.

          Keep in mind as you do so that more than one state had enough votes for Jill Stein that if they had gone to Hillary, Trump never would have become president.

          We should have viable parties outside of the two not great to horrible parties we have now. But that’s simply not the way our government works as it stands now.

          Last thing: you’ve become a single issue voter. This is the lefty equivalent of only caring about abortion and ignoring literally everything else. Politics is complicated, and I personally find single issue voters incredibly shortsighted and lazy.

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              6 months ago

              Instead youll sit idle by as fascism takes over. You are no less responsible if you dont vote.

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                Biden. Is. Funding. Genocide.

                He is actively exploiting Bush era “emergency powers” that were never rolled back after 9/11 to sell artillery to Israel.

                He is fascist too.

                This is what happens when you let soft brained morons convince you that supporting lesser evil is mandatory. You support evil and both sides continually get worse.

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                6 months ago

                america is a fascist state you clueless cracker

                just because “your” “group” isn’t the target YET doesn’t mean it’s not happening

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                  I genuinely can’t wait for it to happen to them at this point, just to measure how long it takes the settler menace to learn empathy. I’m told empathy can be trained into the monstrous and ghoulish; I want to see if that hypothesis holds.