Death to America

  • buckykat [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.

    Yes, obviously, what Israel is now doing is in no way defensive but taking their dishonest framing and directly rejecting it is good too.

    • FactuallyUnscrupulou [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      8 months ago

      My absolute favorite is to hit them with even more religious bullshit. “As a devout Catholic I cannot deny Jesus of Nazareth is the rightful King of Israel and his kingdom will reign through the hearts of all; it transcends borders, language and culture. To acknowledge another Israel would be against the practice of the church.”

      • Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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        8 months ago

        No country has a right to exist

        People have a right to exist

        Countries do not.

        After WWII the allies dismantled Nazi Germany and Japan because the whole world was like “you don’t get to exist.” Not like that anyway.

        Zionist propagandists try to force the repetition of that line “Israel has a right to exist… Israel has a right to defend itself…” so that people never question it or rather can’t question it (they become children and start calling you names if you do). It’s just more bullshit and they always tie the state of Israel back to “the Jews” broadly, across the world. As if saying “Israel doesn’t have a right to exist” is the same as “Jews don’t have a right to exist.” Obviously it is not the same. Not even in the same realm. Like if I said Vatican City doesn’t have a right to exist no one would assume I meant “genocide all the Catholics!” I mean the entire thing is just moronic. Ethnostates are fucking bad.

  • NATOSleeperCell [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    Bring back downvotes because jesus christ, this thread isn’t doing anything except wasting anima into terminally online , self-righteous navel gazing. Listen OP, I have had to grapple and coming to terms with America massacring millions of my people but signing every one of your posts and comments with “death to America” regardless of how just it might be in intent or how you mean it, simply comes across as provocatively inflammatory and trying to get rise out of others. If someone acted like you posted, I’d think they were a fed, or they were a late teen channelling some other source of repent energy into this. Its a red flag either way, and I’m not sure at all what it does. No Palestinians or Middle Easterners I know have the opinion you quoted, even as aggrieved as they are.

      • NATOSleeperCell [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        8 months ago

        Do you think I’ve never said or agreed with a “Death to America”? No, I think that encouraging a million dead israelis as the only acceptable opinion and saying fuck you to anyone who disagrees is extremely online, needs to touch grass behaviour. This isn’t “dirtbag left” shit, its literally just immature and annoying lol. I left my “saying fuck you a lot” behaviour behind in my early teenage years. Fuck you. Are we saying that along all our struggle sessions? Come on now.

  • SootySootySoot [any]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    It’s a fun thing to say, I’m sure. But it honestly upsets me to see others so willingly and happily wish death upon others. I don’t actually wish death on anyone, it’s just a sad and unfortunate necessity because oppressors like Israel and the US make it the only means of self-defence.

    • mar_k [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      8 months ago

      i agree the “1000 october 7s” aka 1.2 million dead people part is concerning me a bit, even if it’s hyperbole. like, we can recognize violence is often a necessary means to liberation without rooting for maximum violence?

      • Phish [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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        8 months ago

        Yeah, comments like that just make liberal psychos feel more justified calling the left pro-hamas instead of pro-palestine. I don’t think it’s particularly productive.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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        8 months ago

        It’s a cope. The necessary violence is really hard psychologically, people loop around to becoming hyperviolent as a way to deal with it.

  • SUPAVILLAIN@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    if your opinion about israel is anything other than “death to israel, infinite october 7s on the settlers until palestine is free from the river to the sea”, fuck you, your bloodline, and all your dead homies