Gamers aren’t being persecuted… but they should be.
The next five year plan - Building a really big school locker sufficient to house the entire gamer population.
I heard about the guy who have the biggest locker on planet, he’s called Davy Jones.
Honestly Valve should do a purge on this shit. People who brigade tag things like this get banned from using Steam community features.
Tagging cop games villain protagonist is funny though
MFW sorry cop was the only cop I could play in Disco Elysium.
That and landlord sims lmao
Those libertarians could never lift a finger for anything like this.
Ah yes the two races, white and POLITICAL.
Just like the two genders, male and political.
Or the two sexual orientations, straight and political.
When you’re used to privellage equality feels like persecution.
I see the “politics” and “political simulator”(!!!) on its steam page, that’s just run of the mill multi fps shooter. Do they even moderate the tags there?
Considering they let open Nazis run rampant on their forums…
I got quite a lot of open fash comments removed from steam forums so they do moderate them somewhat at least, but idk if any authors of them got banned.
You gotta report them and it takes a bit of time but there is some moderation that happens on steam. At least enough to piss off some fashy gamers
This is probably going to piss off people who actually want to play political sim and games about politics.
gate has nonjokingly been a disaster for the human race.There’s an argument to be made that GG was responsible for neo-fascism blooming in the west. In the very least it was a big push to getting Trump elected and establishing the alt-right.
I will make that argument. I was there, Gandalf, 3,000 years ago, when the strength of gamers fail. Looking back, we were 150% watching white male gamers being radicalized in to neo-fascism, but I at least didn’t recognize the scope or importance of what was happening.
Me too. I watched all the ingredients for an embarrassingly nerdy but still dangerous beer hall putsch mix together and form a fascist brew in real time.
It’s not a very unpopular argument, Steve Bannon even had his part in G*merGate.
It tru. Which, like… fukkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Even if GG isn’t responsible, Bannon and others like him were absolutely trying to spread fascism through gamer outrage well before GG really started
Bannon’s goldfarming business on World of Warcraft, by his own admission, gave him many of his pre-
regime political front ideas: specifically, that were a bunch of easily led, credulous assholes just waiting for something to rally behind.
It says something about the state of America that you can’t get people to care about politics by talking about health care, mass incarceration, housing prices, etc. But tell them woke is why vidja games are bad and they’re ready to go for fascism.
Especially wild when the downfall of gaming is a ham fisted example of the natural conclusion of capitalism.
Turns out when giant corporations just try to charge you a subscription for the same thing every year instead of improving or developing the product because Gamers pre order every piece of shit they wrap in foil paper you get shitty over priced cookie cutter games.
Clearly what would solve that is being more racist.
The “nothing ever happens, propaganda has no effect on me” head-in-grounders crowd has claimed that
gate had zero influence on the election, but it was a squeaker, and even an upset for many in the ruling class that actually did put their money and expectations behind 
. A nudge was enough.And beyond that it’s created a persistent, ongoing cultural shift in how media is viewed and evaluated. And it was 10 years ago, a lot of those gamegaters who were teenagers and young adults are edging in to their 30s, in to real big kid jobs where they have some degree of influence.
And it was 10 years ago, a lot of those gamegaters who were teenagers and young adults are edging in to their 30s, in to real big kid jobs where they have some degree of influence.
And some are old enough to already be very, very divorced, and it shows, now shepherding the next generation into following them.
No fault divorce, but at what cost?
Lol fuck. ahhhhhhhh
Isn’t JD Vance on record whining about The Last Jedi on social media
Reactionaries hated The Last Jedi because feeemale and political
I hated The Last Jedi because Rian Johnson can make an entertaining whodunit movie, but “hehe GOTCHA! AGAIN!” is obnoxious and tiresome and out of place in the Star Wars franchise.
We are not the same.
Walking out of the theater my opinion was just a resounding “blah” and in conjunction with Rogue One it killed my interest in seeing any more new Star Wars stuff
He couldn’t even stay with his gotchas. “Oh the ancient texts are now destroyed GOTCHA no they’re fine,” for example.
“Oh wow maybe Rey will join with Kylo after all NOPE GOTCHA” and so on and so on.
I gave the new trilogy a fair shot. It was just not very good sadly. (Blue haired women had nothing to do with that though)
They all sucked and the worst part was the back and forth narrative slapfight between Abrams and Johnson that lead from the thesis-antithesis of the first two to the clownish synthesis of the third and worst one of all.
God I hope so.
Both democrats and republicans are fascists. Trump is no more a fascist than Biden
Trump is no more a fascist than Biden
99% Hitler is still mathematically different than 100% Hitler.Biden has killed like eight times the amount of people
Biden has killed like eight times the amount of people
Explain what you mean with this. I have no idea what you’re referring to.
Ukraine war and Palestinian genocide are both on Biden, and more people died of Covid under Biden than Trump
At this point they’re either both at 99% or both at 100%
Pretty damn close, yeah, and only shifting in
amounts categorically here and there.
One thing that struck me about the Jan 6 riot is that, especially compared to the 2017 unite the right rally, everyone was fucking old. My read on that is that Facebook and it’s corresponding propaganda style has been much more fertile ground for activating reactionaries IRL than 4chan and Reddit has. There’s definitely millions and millions of gamer chuds, but they seem over represented online and underrepresented in voting booths, protests and riots
Yea the downside of trying to specifically radicalized antisocial NEETs is that they’re pretty useless at anything other than calling people slurs from the safety of their troll cave.
I think it helped create a formula for right wing radicalization.
I was thinking about how while it’s nothing new that reactionary groups attempt to co-opt youth subcultures, this one is maybe their most successful attempt of all time in terms of both per capita conversion and raw numbers.
Yeah, it’s not a new thing at all, but
gate was remarkably and lastingly successful compared to duds like, say, “Metalgate” that tried to ride its coattails but was such a failure that only fucking Green Day could be found to say that SJWs were ruining metal.I don’t need to tell you that Green Day is not metal and never was and fuck them anyway.
Green Day is anti-woke? What on earth?
Hey, they decided to hitch their wagon to “Metalgate” years ago and whatever else they did, that’s fucking awful.
This game has looked like a complete dud that no one asked for to me from everything I’ve seen, but of course the vast majority of gamer complaints have seemed to be just frothing about WOKE DEI ESG
I recently realized that the vast majority of content that this crowd whines about isn’t very good on its own merits. For example, The Acolyte, which was middling at best from what I watched, got it hard from the Star Wars reactionary fans while Andor, which has an only slightly less diverse cast, did not. This indicates to me that while these people are sincere racists and probably really do believe that diverse casting signals a conspiracy against the white race, they also lack conviction and will fall silent if the treats are tasty enough.
they also lack conviction and will fall silent if the treats are tasty enough
If it’s absolute hog slop trash they’ll oink and gobble it up, sometimes just for the performative gesture of “THIS IS NOT WOKE SO IT MUST BE GREAT!”
That Harry Potter pogrom game where you play a magic SS officer cracking down on “goblins”
comes to mind.They can’t get mainstream approval for their absurd whining if they target actually good stuff, unless they manage to get a huge amount of right-wing unified action on the subject, which is difficult with their lack of actual organization.
So you see a bunch of slightly shitty to very shitty media being broadcasted as part of this whole “woke ruined my vibeo game!!” thing because they need the normal people complaining about normal things like how shit the media is to amplify their weird anti-pronoun “criticisms”
Edit: This is why you only ever hear about these shit games that are also “woke”. Genuinely good stuff that’s “woke” can’t be a target of the woke scaremongering without going against general consensus reality, and bad stuff that’s “not woke” is stuff people forget in a week because relatively normal people aren’t that obsessed with hating things they haven’t heard of before that look kinda bad. These “criticism trains” need the right wing culture warriors to keep them going.
what makes it even worse is that hollywood execs know when their movies/tv shows are shaping up to be total shit, and they purposefully lean into the culture war stuff to try and cause controversy and get free marketing. They also love using diverse casts as a shield, when they know they have a total stinker they think to themselves “well let’s at least make it filled with didactic liberal moralism” to shield themselves from criticism. That way when they get negative reviews for their absolute trash movie they can blame it on the reactionary review bombers, when it would have gotten bad reviews anyway
It’s always been like this. I remember YouTube Skeptiks losing their mind when the all-female Ghostbusters was a flop.
Even if it was the greatest game in existence…there are like five of these on Steam that are free to play.
They’re asking for the equivalent of $40 for this? lol, nope.
Doesn’t Sony have like 5 more live service games in the barrel
Guess they didn’t learn from Destruction AllStars. Apparently the servers for that game might still be up, somehow.
I think they know what they’re doing and their strategy is “launch and launch and launch until one sticks” because one sticking will make them enough to recoup the investment into the 10 that failed. These live service games are the holy grail IF they can get one to stick.
Helldivers 2 this year basically proved the validity of that approach for them.
It apparently started development when Overwatch came out.
I really wish the vast majority of “hero shooters” were just co-op games. Sweaty PvP is so done for me. That’s part of the reason I like Warframe and Wayfinder and other “hero” style games. I like saving the day with the homies. These Concord characters all look fine to me, I think they’d make for fun co-op heroes
I enjoy co-op a lot more than sweat pvp.
I still play some pvp games, but mostly because a lack of co-op I haven’t already burned out of.
Exactly dude, “hero” games I think get a bad rap cause they are all just Overwatch-clones or Overwatch adjacent (which is reductive but you know what I mean). I think the “hero” genre could do really do well to step out of “pushing the cart” or “holding the control point”. Like with most genres there is a lot of room to explore if you took even a step and a half outside the existing boundaries.
If some of them tried to have an actual developed and ongoing story of sorts instead of a bullshit promise of one (like Overwatch started off with) that’d help too.
That’s the thing that gets me mad, is that while they tell you they have a story, there is no meaningful way for you interact with that narrative. Or even be told that narrative in a way that makes sense because you’re always trying to secure objective or whatever. Maybe a little enviorment storytelling here or some special voice lines there, but in the game itself there is usually no real way to interact with the game world’s story in so many hero shooter games. Yeah there is “lore” but there usaully little story.
Like many Blizzard products, it’s a wave of hype and pretension but the actual delivery is shallow but bolstered by a lot of prior fan expectations of EPIC BLIZZARD STORYTELLING™ and the like.
It’s always a bummer to me, I feel like so much of Blizzard games (and a lot of "AAA™®© games) have utterly squandered creative potential. MEGACORP production and creative products are truly a nightmare mixture.
One of the people that put Blizzard on the map to begin with, the one that was a primary developer for Diablo and Diablo 2, left the company to make Torchlight elsewhere.
The corpos left at Blizzard tweeted “FUCK THAT LOSER” in response to the developer’s parting criticisms of the old company.
How’s Wayfinder so far? Heard it kinda had a rocky start but I’m interested in the art style and gameplay loop
I dig it. It’s a cartoon-y Saturday morning show about good guys fighting bad guys. I’m a sucker for that thing. Love the artstyle, the mechanics are fun and the looter-shooter-y isn’t groundbreaking but it nails the fundamentals. New gear feels exciting which is all I ask for.
I’ll have to give it a try then!
I think it’s worth the price, and it’s an “offline” game. You don’t need to connect to the internet or anything like that. It’s all there right out of the box. It’s still “early access” but most of my ~30 hours have been enjoyable and bug free
Political SIM FPS???
Only one of those I can think of is JFK reloaded
Yeah it actually sounds like an interesting mix of genres
CW: racism
(desert-skinned beige people with 80% brown hair is much better)
cool looking characters
cool looking characters, like nathan drake. joel from the last of us. booker from bioshock infinite. you know, that kinda guy. an adult virgin’s idea of what a ‘cool looking’ guy is
The long creative drought that was grizzled white middle-aged dudebros that must kill to protect/rescue some daughter figure from the others fucking sucked.
These are the subset of gamers that piss me off to no end… The early access game review bombing for poor optimization numbnuts are their own kind of special, but these folks just thrive on hatred…
Every fucking steam discussion has a “WoKe GaMe?” Post…
Reich wing propaganda working it’s way through society… We can thank Steve Bannon partially for wanting to aim for indoctrinating “rootless white male gamers”
The early access game review bombing for poor optimization
imo don’t do early access if you don’t want real criticism, it was supposed to be the whole reason you release in EA in the first place not just as a marketing hype generator
Why is fucking Sony releasing games in early access to begin with
I don’t mean the so-called “AAA” dev/publisher early access that is like 4 days before release (read: exploiting those with little patience.)
I mean the steam, often indie dev, “early access” that runs for a year plus because they’re using the early access to address bugs and to help optimize.
to help optimize.
I think I’ve lost the plot, how would they know they need to optimize if nobody were to tell them? Obviously there are good ways and bad ways to write criticism, but again if you release a game early its going to happen.
Pretty much what you said. There are good and bad ways to say it. Review bombing and flipping out in the discussions is not the way, those are the people I was referring to though in my initial comment. Unfortunately there are way too many of them out there. :/
Every fucking steam discussion has a “WoKe GaMe?” Post…
Youtube is plagued with ALL CAPS SCARE WORDS about how WOKE DESTROYED or WOKE IS DESTROYING with SEO-face distortions of bibeo bame characters and chud hosts alike.
Early access has been abused so much that devs are mostly forced to use EA in order to make a soft release.
And not all indie devs are saints, why should you be able to charge any money for a literal alpha prototype? We are now paying to be not even beta but alpha testers?
Again EA abuse completely destroyed the software developement foundations behind most indie devs. Way too many of them work on their game for a year and then release a crappy alpha.
20 years ago the idea would be laughed at, today we pay money for any half decent prototype with slightly better than Unity Asset store models. That is the lowest barrier of entry and its understandable people have become cynical.
Of course there are EA success stories obviously, from single devs that get it right to big “indie” studios but those are the exception.
I think there are also quite a few devs that hide behind the “oh its still early access, there is still time” to hide behind their incompetence and/or unwillingless to fix bugs. Sometimes they’ll keep making promises of new content, adding more and more stuff and never looking back at their engine bugs etcs as a result EA is not a guarantee of bug free release even if “done right”. The devs may simply prioritize content over bugs.
Maybe my references are skewed, but I remember Minecraft’s alpha was $5, beta was $10, and the full release I think was $20 or something. Which both seemed really fair price-wise but also made sense as to making buying a game early appealing because you’re paying less for it; it’s not an act of charity to buy a game in early access. Now they seem to be charging full price and are basically going “uwu, i’m a smol indie-dev” and asking for people to donate money and faith to someone they don’t know because they’re petit-bourgeois.
The softest of targets
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This comment style with the gifs and pictures just wedged into the text is so fucking ugly and cringy. It’s a quarter-step above comments that are 90% emojis.
This comment style where you’re an asshole is pathetic and reeks of insecurity.
have you considered
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Don’t care, nobody asked nobody cares.
Me when I have to cope with not having any cool emojis
To be fair on most apps they look a lot bigger than on web it’s not great. Afaict they’re not standard markdown so clients just render them as full size images
Ah, I’ve seen that with Sync too. Still, that’s a client issue, not an emoji issue.
Huh really I assumed emoji were just a css hack by hexbear, not used anywhere else. Is there a spec somewhere i can point the app developer to?
No u
So weird they picked this to hate on, cause it seems like a bit of an Overwatch clone, which also shares a lot in common with League of Legends.
I know Overwatch has a few, but I played a lot of League and there are plenty of non-vanilla characters.
These people just hate for hate’s sake.
They latched on to it because it’s total dogshit.
It’s a Sony title that didn’t crack 700 concurrent players on its first day.
Now there’s two possible reasons for this, one is that it’s a shitty looking generic paid pvp hero game. There’s literally half a dozen better free options with already existing communities and player bases.
The other possibility is that it’s because there’s characters in it that aren’t straight white males.
It would be like saying that the reason Steven Segal movies aren’t popular is because it stars a straight white guy and not because it’s a dogshit product by a dogshit person that looks worse than half a dozen free readily available options.
It’s a Sony title that didn’t crack 700 concurrent players on its first day.
Holy molly. You gotta wonder how many of these failed “games-as-a-service” attempts are black spots on these companies balance sheet that they cover with profits from actually good single player games, and yet they keep trying
I mean they also had Helldivers 2 this year so clearly the games as a service model can produce hits big enough to cover for the misses
It’s because it’s shit and an easy target as a result.
Anything that’s bad is because of le woke. They ignore it in anything good.
I sincerely wish the sight of these groups causes intense psychic backlash and physical pain. This will be extra funny considering the vast majority of the world is non white. Maybe this explains why they’re adamant to vote fuckers that wanna accelerate climate catastrophe especially since it will hit the global south the hardest first.
Gamers should be shot
