Like it’s only so long until a user there posts a dumbass “Kick Tankies out of Lemmy” meme to try and start shit to get us defedded and hexbears take the bait immediately and pile on to tell them what a dumbass they are.
Like as dumb as the “death to NATO” being compared to “death to the people of NATO” stuff was, blahaj and hexbear are the largest queer instances and I quite like taking part in it and their trans communities, idk it’s kinda nice to interact with people who don’t have the same kind of hexbear brainrot where I see the words “pumpkin spice”, “Maoist cult”, “Soyfacing PMC radlib” or “rock stacking” and immediately start to go :sus: mentally, it feels refreshing to be able to talk to an incredibly queer positive community that doesn’t have the same kind of internet poisoning as all of us. And it seems kind of assholy that some of the users here just don’t give a shit and want to post and dunk until we get defedded by every instance, this isn’t like lemmy.ca where they were all dicks that none of us liked anyway and were complaining about us doing hate speech against fucking landlords or lemm.ee where almost every time time a user from there pops their head into our threads here they say something racist or transphobic. iirc blahaj.zone was actually the second most requested instance to federate with in the pre federation discussions due to how good of a queer space it was.
Like their first defed thread was a complete embarrassment because there were a load of users there that actually had positive opinions towards us and then they saw the shitshow happening once from the post reaching active and changed to be way against us which tbh, fair enough.
Edit:
statements from the head mod Ada:
I’ve been on Lemmy for all of two months and don’t understand all of the defederation drama. I just want to be able to view all of the communities and I’ll ignore or block content I don’t want to see. Simple as that.
I rather like this community and it would be annoying to have to make a new account just to view it.
Mood, I’m kind of considering making a blahaj account too because I want to continue to be able to post in your guy’s comms
I really struggle to respect someone who repeatedly said “People of NATO” and never recanted, but I do need to respect her handling of this.
Gonna have to ask you to, its better for the trans community to keep shit together so we can spread survival tips to each other, even if 196 makes the instance insufferable and oftentimes transphobic
Im hoping theyll do something about how problematic 196 is at some point, but I doubt it
I’m very close to just starting to spam blahaj.zone with Leslie Feinberg. If you think that the liberal regime will give us any rights without massive struggle, you don’t know our fucking history.
Liberals have given trans people nothing, we have had to claw everything we have from their cold dead grasp.
We need TC69 back for just one last job.
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Unironically would be interested to read that, I still have that trans liberation pdf lying around somewhere on my computer
trans liberation pdf
you should read it. it’s easy to manage in a few evenings, 'cause it’s easy enough to read and it’s just straight bangers after bangers
After that “people of NATO” bullshit, I don’t see the administrative team (the admins and mods collectively) of blahaj operating in good faith. My comment about the bad faith that other instances engage in applies as much to blahaj as the other instances like lemmy.ca. If they truly believe in the vision and strategic goals of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, they can just say so without hiding behind some ridiculous excuse. I’m sure Stoltenberg and various other generals in command of a giant military are quaking in their boots about some obscure website wishing for their collective deaths.
Most of the users seem to be cool enough, but the administrative team is a major obstacle, and frankly, I do not like it and do not believe it is fair that we have to change our behavior while they don’t have to do shit. How is this fair? We have a stickied “Amendments to the Code of Conduct regarding the Fediverse” issued by an admin, so what have they done in return? Apparently, our admins went out of their way to delete a post for their sake, so when are their admins going to delete the “fuck tankies” banner on their largest and most active comm? And this will not be the end of it, mark my words. They’ll demand more and more, ever slowly chipping away at what makes Hexbear Hexbear. If they want to demonstrate that they’re operating in good faith, they need to compromise as well.
But I’m already wasting my time. In the second of meta discussion on blahaj about Hexbear (which I will not link because that would be bRigAdInG), everyone is giving the same tired excuses (tankies, emote spam, Ukraine) about why they want to defed from us. It’s going to happen one way or another. I just wish the admins here didn’t have to humiliate themselves in the process.
their banner image literally says “fuck tankies”
and rightly so.
fuck authoritarianism, fuck hierarchies and fuck commie cops
no gods, no masters. the only way forward.
no gods, no masters
right, so let’s go build the material conditions for this to be possible!
let’s call this process hmmm socialism, or something
MY WAY IS THE ONLY WAY
^ THIS IS NOT AN AUTHORITARIAN STATEMENT
ik i’m crazy wanting liberation for all sentient beings and an end to oppression
We need to oppress the oppressors tho
that makes you no better than them
“we want to kill all Jews, black people, queers, romas, communists, unionists, disabled people, antifascists and Slavs”
“we want to suppress or kill Nazis so they can’t do that”You: “I can’t tell the difference between these two groups, they are exactly the same, if you punch a Nazi that makes you no better than them”
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
holy shit one of you is actually this stupid! i seriously thought this was just a meme, oh my fucking god you are dumber than dogshit and half as charming
If I put Bezos in jail I am no better than Bezos, you say? Very leftist of you.
Reality isn’t a superhero movie, if you want to combat systems that oppress people you need to be practical and make sure that the people enforcing the oppressive systems can’t just undermine you and re-establish them, an outcome that has actually happened in places like Chile in the 1970s
Yeah it does lmao
Omfg
fuck authoritarianism
Ok, so define it first. Bonus points if you don’t consult the state department.
The UK is currently run by an unelected, unopposed dictatorial tyrant with no mandate. Just something to think about while you try and invent a definition.
fuck hierarchies
How do you intend to organise?
fuck commie cops
I don’t see the People’s Police running protestors over or shooting minorities on the regular.
let’s have a look at your wonderful communist china
social credit system and total surveillance. One wrong word and you’re boned.
the people’s police? You mean like Tianenmen Square?
And what about your wonderful communist utopia of Russia? Raping ukrainian children?
the people’s police? You mean like Tianenmen Square?
NYPD filmed running over BLM protestors for no reason vs Full Footage of Tank Man incident showing that twelve tanks stop for one man and are patient and permissive enough to allow him to climb onto their tanks
More info here
Our theory is that the tank commander was the guy’s son and Tank Man was asking him what he wanted for dinner.
You know there are actually people living in China, including foreigners, and you can ask them about the “social credit score” right? And they all say they’ve never heard of it. On Baidu they actually joke about it because westerners think it actually exists. You can even ask them any other question about China you want! You don’t have to limit yourself to one topic!
OP explicitly said
Bonus points if you don’t consult the state department
You don’t get the bonus points. In fact, you get points deducted.
Liberal can’t read, knows nothing with extreme confidence.
Go away. We don’t have to be nice to you here.
“I uncritically believe all the propaganda the state department shovels in to my little piggie maw, because unquestioning acceptance of everything the US State Department says is the core of Anarchism”
There are many many Anarchist critiques of the behavior of the AES states. Well founded, valid arguments that need to be considered. State Department propaganda is not on that list, and you’re an embarrassment to everyone who has fought and died for Anarchist causes.
They will probably find a reason to block us no matter what we do tbh
Based on what their admin Ada has actually said she’s willing to put up with us a bit because she really does want to help builds a sense of trans solidarity between the two major trans instances so I feel like that’s mischaracterising her a bit. If she just wanted to find an excuse to defed us she would have done it over the shitshow in the previous defed thread.
I hadn’t seen this prior to posting in this thread and it does soften my view a lot. Supporting trans people across the lemmyverse is more important than yelling at obnoxious libs.
Maybe we can get Hexbears to agree to some kind of cease-fire thing and agree not to engage with politics on Blahaj? Idk how that would work, given the consistent failure of Liberals to support and protect trans people. That seems like it would be an inevitable point of conflict.
Might I suggest adding these to the main post so more people see them? This is important context that I didn’t have when I first posted and it might change other people’s views.
I don’t believe it for a second. We were defederated for no real reason. They allow explicit anti-communism. These are just words. They’ll defederate you the first chance they get. Then they’ll release a statement like “well, we tried, but those tankies were just too evil”.
as sad as it makes me bc i really want more trans-positive spaces to lurk, i think you’re probably 100% correct here
Think about it. She’s lamenting all the hostility they get from most liberal instances, but clearly holds hexbear in contempt, and she defederated from us. Why would she prefer their company over us? We ARE the other big queer instances that she so hopes to find. It’s a meme that trans girls are all communists, and I’m sure she knows it. This seems to me that she has a very active interest in stopping this. Why else would Nazis be less problematic than us?
I kinda wish we had a more general purpose trans comm on here. transenbyliberation is ok and all but id like just a word-for-word copy of trans circlejerk and traaa so we can spam reddit with those to get trans people on a more supportive platform
goddamn i didn’t even get a chance to say i love this before it happened lol https://hexbear.net/c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns
idk if this was you or great minds just think alike but either way i’m thrilled.
it was me, i thought of it and then immediately acted on it, rare for me
