The only reason not to do so is the vanishingly rare chance that democrats turn a red state, which is basically the exact same argument they use to tell people to vote blue no matter who, but more compelling because it’s not typical genocidal am*rican politicians they’re voting for.
What are they going to do? Tell you they want to vote for a war criminal on principle? The positive political pressure of having a somewhat popular socialist party far outweighs the small chance democrats could have won (and this is even from their perspective, that the democrats winning would fix everything somehow)
Also do it if you live in a blue state
Live in a purple state, vote PSL
Turn red states red!
I like telling libs to register as Republicans and change the GOP from the inside if they really believe in the efficacy of entryism and reformism since they won’t shut the fuck up about “not making perfect the enemy of good” and whatever liberal bullshit they say to support a genocide, but a woman of color led version
I live in the most important state in the most important county in the most important city in the most important township on the most important street and I’m voting PSL
Neat! This is even more fun in a swing state
It is insane how much time the Dems are spending in Wisconsin. If I know this was happening I’d have cleared my week to just harass them for days.
It doesn’t have the same trick of turning their “if you can’t win immediately you should give up and vote for my guy” philosophy on them
It does have the trick of “Fuck you” though.
(PA voter. The state everyone keeps sucking off saying we might as well be the only state voting. I was gonna just not vote, but writing in PSL might piss off libs more, so, might do that)
I don’t think that PSL has official write-in status in PA, what happens to your ballot if you do write them in?
According to this access chart, they have write-in access in Pennsylvania as it is one of a few automatic write-in states as per the EAC, meaning they don’t need to register as an official write-in candidate to be written in like they would have had to in Georgia to receive write-in votes after they were fought off the ballot there as well by the (anti-)Democratic party capitalist superPAC lawyers. As far as I know write-ins still work in automatic write-in states as it is unnecessary to register for an “official write-in status” because it’s automatic. I could be wrong if someone has better information but it’s what I am seeing.
They have automatic write-in access in Alabama, New Hampshire, Oregon, Pennsylvania, and Wyoming. Registering is specifically for ballot access in states with automatic write-in access. So my assumption with them being removed from ballot access proper by the (anti-)Democratic bourgeois party’s superPAC lawyers, is that they now can only be written in and can’t be chosen directly on the ballot. Assuming the ballots aren’t reprinted because it’s so close to the election, you would presumably void your vote by choosing them on the proper upper ballot (which they’ve been “removed” from) vs writing them as a write-in where candidates have automatic access. This is my assumption. Certainly, granted, it would be totally asinine for them to have it pan out this way — but also US bourgeois democracy is totally asinine, and that’s the info I have.
Hopefully Josh Shapiro wipes his ass with it live on TV
I dunno otherwise. I think they tally them up though. I’ve seen lists of like “Donald Duck” and all that shit from elections in the past
I wrote above, afaik they should still count as valid write ins bc there’s automatic write-in access in the state, unlike Georgia where they were fought off the ballot by the (anti-)Democratic bourgeois party’s high-finance lawyers, which requires specific write-in registration (for which the deadline has passed). They’re just not valid as ballot choices in the state anymore. But it should allow write-ins as far as I can tell because it’s an automatic write-in access state per the Election Assistance Commission source I linked — just can’t choose them directly on ballot (even if they are still listed bc it’s too close to election to reprint. That would probably spoil ballot).
Pennsylvania: “Hey, we aren’t Georgia!.. yet”
Georgia: “Hey, we aren’t Florida!”
Florida: “Hey, we… uh…”
I do hope they get properly counted though. It would be funny to hear the libs melting down if like 1000 PA voters write in PSL and the news channels show it at the very bottom. Then Harris loses by like 900 votes.
I’d have better luck convincing the republicans I work with to vote PSL.
I live in a small town. The one liberal I know is an actual khive guy.
I also feel this way. A lot of people in the Trump crowd actually see a lot of the same problems that we see, except they think the cause of these problems is [insert some extremely racist thing] or “muh woke” and not capitalism, but on the other hand, seemingly every person I’ve talked to who’s firmly in the vote blue no matter who circle seems to think everything is great actually and that they’ve never been better.
Yeah the liberals I know refuse to acknowledge there are fundamental problems that we should do something about.
The trump people see the problem but think the solution is killing minorities.
Not sure which crowd is more amenable.
I’d have better luck convincing the republicans I work with to vote PSL.
Well in that case…
I’ve tried a time or two. It’s mostly a fools errand. I’m not well spoken enough, and most of them arent worth the time to go at it.
have you met an American liberal??
a lot of US liberals who backed Bernie were actually serious about the ‘or bust’ and jumped ship from the Democrats after. I’ve worked with, organized with, and even been roommates with some of them, amounting to a pretty good number just in my personal bubbles. A bunch of them are even communists now. And even more have been going that route since, including hugely now over this genocide in Palestine, which is seeing also mass sustained protests even outside of the Democratic Convention, which is happening alongside many defections. Liberalism is in the water from birth; most US communists on HB were once US liberals. It is the default slate before any other input. Saying liberals can never be convinced is demonstrably false because you’re speaking contradictory negations about the literal experiences of many people on this very web site. It also doesn’t serve the expanding of class consciousness or construction of socialist movement building to hold and push that idea, which I’ve seen many times on this site, which makes me laugh when I know it is coming from a US person who was, in all likelihood, a liberal just a few years before making such comments.
It can be done. Don’t expect all the brain worms to leave though. New comrades and old will all make errors and as long as someone is on the side of the angels we should be kind and give space where possible. Heck it is in theory possible that even I, the one true leftist, will make an ideological error.
You can pretty much convert any liberal or conservative that’s willing to learn from books as opposed to podcasts and memes and out of context graphs. It’s just annoying that there aren’t many of those people around.
But yeah, liberals can be converted. I just have less patience for it because they’re usually incredibly condescending about shit they have little to no clue about, and it takes pushing through that arrogance to actually convince them to read about these things in depth enough to actually understand them.
I’m not even American and I’ve convinced lib friends to vote PSL in swing states. You need to get on my level of posting.
in some states they are just listed as two women with no party affiliation so use that how you will
Why vote for Kamala L3Harris and Wehrmacht Walz when you can vote for TWO women? That’s twice the feminism!
