• HornyOnMain@hexbear.netEnglish
    97·
    1 year ago

    uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire

    • boredtortoise@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      /s

      Edit: I’ll also add this here from a deeper comment because many aren’t getting it.

      We can help neurodivergent comrades with tone indicators.

      And, the DPRK jokes are beating a starving horse. Other instances already think everyone here is only a pseudoleftist cult follower.

      Either some finesse or subtleties to joke variety or then some indicators on blatant wacky shit posting could be helpful for people.

        • HornyOnMain@hexbear.netEnglish
          74·
          1 year ago
          Yeah I support the red, white and blue star spangled banner

          kim-salute 🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵

        • boredtortoise@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          I’m the spectre which haunts lemmy, never in a wrong place

          Edit: another joke idea: is there going to be a wall to keep the “illegals” like me out?

          (It’s a joke making fun of right-wingers and how federation works)

          I’m sure the material needs work

            • boredtortoise@lemm.eeEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              That is my comment’s point. No one is illegal so I highlighted that with the quotes because the original context was keeping people out, as in a wall.

              It would not fly on a conservative forum because it makes fun of them.

              • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.netEnglish
                20·
                1 year ago

                Fuck off. You’re trying to say that because we don’t want actual chuds on our silly internet forum (and many of us are fed up with libs too) that we’re exactly like right-wingers who are currently putting fucking sawblades in rivers so immigrants drown. Do you see how these two things are rather different? It’s not a funny joke and never would be. There’s zero potential here and you’re an asshole.

                • boredtortoise@lemm.eeEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  If you disagree with “there are no illegals” then I’m sorry to say I’m not the asshole here

          • HornyOnMain@hexbear.netEnglish
            20·
            1 year ago

            I’ve edited it to just be making fun of them for thinking that any support for the DPRK could only be ironic, rather than for them using “/s?” to do that

            rat-salute-2

          • boredtortoise@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Exactly!

            And the DPRK jokes are beating a starving horse. Other instances already think everyone here is only a pseudoleftist cult follower.

            Either some finesse or subtleties to joke variety or then some indicators on blatant wacky shit posting could be helpful for people.

            • half_giraffe [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
              22·
              1 year ago

              What part of “uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire” do you think is a joke exactly?

              • boredtortoise@lemm.eeEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                Yeah I know there are leftists here, and I also understand why some instances can’t see it behind the edgy veil

                • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  26·
                  1 year ago

                  Being pro North Korea isn’t edgy. It’s supporting a heroic people in their anti imperialist struggle against the United States.

                  I get the feeling you believe this is ironic support, probably because you believe nonsensical American lies about their victims.

                  Genocidal empires tend to lie.

                • cosecantphi [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  20·
                  1 year ago

                  Can you point out the edginess for us, specifically? It looks to me like you have some preconceived notions about actual socialist countries having committed irredeemable atrocities, and thus you’re dumbfounded as to why a very inclusive leftist forum like ours would support them. It looks like the conclusion you’ve reached to square this contradiction is that our support for these countries is not genuine, and that our outward admiration for them is just us trying to offend people.

                  But that conclusion couldn’t be more off base. Our support for these countries is genuine. Instead you should look more closely at your preconceived notions of these countries, because that’s the faulty premise at work here. If you are from an international-community-1international-community-2 type country, then your perspective on this has been utterly warped by the ongoing century long atrocity propaganda campaign that the west has wrought against socialist countries.

                  That goes double for the DPRK specifically. Everything you hear about that country in mainstream western news isn’t just severely biased, it’s more often than not outright lies. During the Korean War, the United States’ horrific bombing campaign destroyed literally every building more than one story tall in the entirety of the DPRK. The United States literally killed off a double digit percentage of their population. Then the US and the rest of “the international community” (see the emoji above), worked tirelessly to economically cripple the DPRK with sanctions to halt their recovery from the war. It’s so fucked that I can’t help but laugh when western liberals are so self unaware that they wonder why the DPRK hates the US so much and why they’re putting so much effort into building a stockpile of nuclear weapons.

                  If I missed the mark here, then I’m not sure what else you think is r/the_donald like about us besides the fact that we can be crass and rude at times.

            • Farman [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
              6·
              1 year ago

              I dont know the other posters but personally the north korean leadership is the only one i respect. The leadership in china and russia are all spinless cowards that are wigling to sacrifice their people and national interests to apease the west. The iranians are a little better but even they are often opt for apeasment. The last president in particular was borderline treasonous. We shall see what this one does.

              The north koreans are the only ones with any dignity. They have also been consistently on the rigth side on their diplomatic dessicions. For example only they and syria helped iran when both the us and the soviets made a pact to depose khomeini. Many people remember that and as a result have great respect and gratitude to north koreans.

              They also have one of the best education systems in the world first is china and the us third south korea 4th north korea. 5th russia. For a small country thats heavily sanctioned that is amazing. And this shows, they developed their own nuclear weapons and hypersonic gliders the latter wich not even the americans have. And those are not copies from china or russia. Those countries being run by cowards refuse to export military tech if the americans prohibit it.

        • boredtortoise@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Ackshually the le redditor moment is the the_donaldification of this instance. Some day the critical mass won’t get the parody anymore and it will be just a gargle of The One Joke attackhelicopterlibrulsnowflake changed to chinalibrulstalin

          Did narwhal bacon midnight stay funny? Not really

          • JuneFall [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
            30·
            1 year ago

            Question yourself, why do you use donaldification, do you mean the sub? If so do you think the social interactions here are like there? Beating down against marginalized people in the imperial core with heavy slurs and racism which promote violence in the authoritarian core?

            If you want to refer to the way communication is done, in a not serious tone, with elements that actually connect to people (like the old chapo subreddit did), then you have to ask yourself why you are against an effective presence of the working class on the net.

            If you are just finding the humor edgy then that is another matter, but the first two - which you opened up due to your choice of words - make me think that there is more to it. I feel as if there is a moral component you value highly. Is that so?

            • boredtortoise@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              Remember how t_d was a tongue in cheek in-joke in the beginning until it grew and actually drew in users that actually were all in with the cult without a hint of self awareness and became what you described?

              That path is too easy to accidentally replicate and IT will be a negative effect for the working class on the net. Regular prole scrollers won’t get “stalin is good because he’s handsome” even though we might have a taste for edgier humor

              Think critical, friend

              • JuneFall [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
                24·
                1 year ago

                Regular prole scrollers

                Will get it, since we are having enough critical points and mega threads as well as theory discussions.

                That path is too easy to accidentally replicate and IT will be a negative effect for the working class on the net

                Yeah I differ in that estimate. A variety of places for the working class will be more effective than small closed groups of critical school theory nerds (which had like 90 years to come up with functional organizing).

                • boredtortoise@lemm.eeEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  I’m not sure if scrollers stick to find out about if there’s honesty in the megathreads.

                  Variety is definitely good. Maybe I’ve just seen too many in-jokes-as-a-glue things convert to something else around the internet as media literacy is falling. Shrug.

                  Love the optimism tho! Peace out

    • iridaniotter [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      45·
      1 year ago

      The DPRK’s nuclear industry got fucked over in the 90s when they agreed to work with America and then surprise! the agreement fell apart. So yeah hopefully they figure out how to do nuclear reactors on their own or with help from China or Russia. sicko-wistful

            • SimulatedLiberalism [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
              11·
              1 year ago

              SSNs are also called attack submarines.

              SSBNs are the big guys who carry large quantity of nuclear warhead ballistic missiles whose job is to lay low, stay hidden to maintain a first/second strike capability.

              SSNs are the small guys who are fast and agile out on a hunt for enemy submarines. They also have limited capacity to launch cruise missiles on naval and land targets. Also known as the “fast attack subs”.

              The Soviets/Russians also have SSGNs which are in between the two and capable of carrying long range guided cruise missiles, whose job is to stay hidden and then launch a large salvo of cruise missiles capable of overwhelming the enemy fleet’s defense.

              Then you have the SSKs - the really small guys, the diesel-electric attack subs that operate on batteries and are extremely quiet but have limited range. They are usually built for littoral (coastal) defense rather than blue water naval power projection.

            • AlkaliMarxist@hexbear.netEnglish
              10·
              1 year ago

              I’m guessing our subs are nuclear capable, because we’re the good guys, and their subs are nuclear attack subs, because they’re the bad guys.

            • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
              8·
              1 year ago

              Oh? I thought that was the term for these sorts of subs, I think it is to differentiate them from spying submarines that don’t carry weapons?