A missle is nothing more than an object forcefully propelled at a target.
So it’s both true a plane hit the pentagon as well as a missle.
many people are saying this
The important thing is the Pentagon blew up so a good thing happened
But they blew it up themselves probably to destroy files though
Net positive for them
Not when its the pentagon blowing up their own building
Are you saying you do not support the pentagon blowing themselves up?
Probably would hurt their feelings to learn that tbh
they gotta have some nefarious shit going on to do something like that. so no
The funny thing is that the more you know about missiles, the less this looks like one. I’m sure some truther has already claimed to know the model of missile used, but I’ll say if this isn’t a plane, it would need to be a very bespoke missile.
Okay maybe, but like, why would they do that? The United States obviously doesn’t care about it’s own civilians and if it was to be that directly planned, why not just use a plane like the towers? There were people on the plane that’s purported to hit the pentagon, don’t they have families that can confirm they exist? Why would the US Military use this as an excuse to bomb itself, but only with a missile? What’s the point and what was the benefit of a missile over just using a plane like all the other attacks that day?
I can believe that the plane got shot down in the fields and spinner into a heroic patriotic sob story because nobody was out there to really confirm anything. But the missile striking the pentagon is just silly.
No missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11. It was a plane u dunce.
Where is the plane then?
Yeah that’s the big hole (lol) in the missile theory. There was a plane that took off and disappeared.
Either it hit the Pentagon or there was some large-scale coverup of disappearing a plane, passengers, and crew, plus a missile launch and whatever coverup was necessary for that.
I didnt bother looking but what makes u think this footage is even in any way related to the pentagon and 9/11?
That’s one extremely fast moving, low-flying passenger plane to be able to strike a building like that and especially to completely destroy itself without any traces of plane left from the wreckage.
It must have been one hell of a bullseye.
planes land every day
Yeah, with the landing gear extended and when the plane has slowed, in a shallow descent over a long distance (at least for passenger planes.)
If this plane was descended too early then it would have run the risk of colliding with objects close to the ground. If the plane was going slowly it would have left a lot more debris and the collision wouldn’t have been nearly as destructive. If the plane hit the ground it may have destroyed the plane before hitting the building.
There’s a lot of reasons why this manoeuvre isn’t the same thing as just landing a plane on an airstrip.
Don’t forget that the plane crumpled in on itself to form a sphere before touching the Pentagon’s facade. It’s wings folded inward as a defense mechanism to mitigate collateral damage.
Flight simulator really pays for itself
No photographic or video footage of a plane wreck near the site. All nearby footage confiscated except for this extremely grainy, 2 FPS video that the state released themselves (THAT STILL CLEARLY SHOWS A MISSILE)
CNN reports that no evidence of a plane crash near the Pentagon was found
Claimed flight path to the Pentagon has direct contradictions to the damage done
THAT STILL CLEARLY SHOWS A MISSILE
it shows a collection of white pixels roughly dildo-shaped, a characteristic shared by aircraft & missiles. i don’t find this very compelling, or a guy expecting to find giant airplane pieces & not. if it directly hit, wouldn’t the debris be inside the building? and on fire?
the expectations of a “normal” plane crash with lots of identifiable debris rests on how the vast majority of planes don’t crash directly into solid objects, except the ground, which is easier to contrast from a building.
The big issue with that is the hole isn’t wide enough to account for wings, and there’s no wing or engine wreckage on the lawn. So where did the wings go?
anyway I think that’s the part that raises the biggest questions for me
turned to ribbons by the concrete? planes are light and flamable
where are the wings in this crash? most they found was like a 2 meter span of a wingtipTo be fair, that seems to be a very muddy crash site, they’re using an excavator to dig in some of the shots. The Pentagon lawn is basically bare, and I really can’t imagine that jet engines wouldn’t leave behind some kind of damage to the exterior wall and at least a bit of wreckage.
On the WTC, the impact of the wings is clearly visible on the building. There is literally no indication whatsoever the Pentagon was hit by a winged aircraft.
they’re different buildings. there isnt a huge corpus of airliner impacts in the side of building-holes to reasonably assume all kinds of buildings would leave wing-marks
The outer walls of the WTC buildings were pretty much mostly glass, right? Whereas the Pentagon is supposed to be fortified.
If you look at the damage to the Pentagon wall and conclude a plane hit it, you will believe literally anything. It looks exactly like a missile struck the wall. The blast hole has zero characteristics of an entire plane smashing into the damn building.
On the contrary you’ve got to be credulous to believe that.
The wings carry fuel and they’re made of carbon fiber and aluminum, lightweight materials. They have to be light relative to the overall mass of the plane to minimize wing loading.
The fuselage contains landing gear, bulkheads, cargo, fuel, APU, and so on, which are not lightweight and not made of cardboard (WTF?) and the body is oriented longitudinally so it drives all that mass into a smaller cross section, whereas the wings distribute their impact over a wider area.
Also, there were conspicuous scorch marks on the wall in the shape of the wings, with a bigger, deeper mark where the engines were, which you’d expect if the fuel in the wings exploded and the entire wing assemblies disintegrated. Jet engine components were found on the Pentagon grounds, further proof.
Also, it doesn’t really make sense that the Pentagon would attack itself with a missile. If they want to assassinate people they’ll just kill them through covert means. If they need to destroy evidence they’ll burn it.
The more incredible story is the missile one, you have to suspend critical thinking and ignore important facts to believe it.
Ok, where’d the plane go? Surely the plane that they said hit the pentagon had to go somewhere? Or did aliens take it like mh370?
I have no idea, is there proof that the plane actually left and is a real passenger plane that was scheduled?
They might’ve also hijacked the plane and crashed it/shot it down into the ocean
Sounds like you did your research.
I put as much research into 9/11 as I do with my preferred economic policies and geopolitics
I thought a plane crashed into the Pentagon. No?
That’s the official story from the US state department yea
There is no official footage of this? I haven’t checked because I am unamerican but I thought it would have news-tier footage like that of the Twin Towers. Since it is the Pentagon I thought there would have been cameras there especially if (not sure if this was the case) they knew planes were headed there.
This is the only official footage released many years after 2001
They confiscated all the footage from surrounding civilian cameras
Why would they switch from a controlled demo like the towers to a random missile for the Pentagon? Or for that matter, why can’t they just shoot missiles at both the towers and the Pentagon and blame it on scheming Iranians? It’s weird for them to have two completely different modes of destruction on two different sets of buildings instead of just reusing the same mode of destruction for both sets of buildings or just blowing up one set of buildings instead of two.
Towers = tall, everybody will see the missiles
Also the Pentagon collapsing out of nowhere from a demolition doesn’t make sense at all
I guess my main point of confusion is why would they fake two different attacks instead of just faking one attack (the twin towers) and calling it a day. No one cares or even remembers about the Pentagon attack, so why bother shooting a missile at it?
To get rid of documents and people that were in that section of the Pentagon that was incinerated without risk of whistleblowers or suspicion of they just randomly disappeared a bunch of files and employees
I thought there was basically no-one in that section of the pentagon when it was hit, it was undergoing renovations or something. And you don’t need a missile to destroy documents
Yeah documents get destroyed as part of “routine housekeeping” all the time, why would they need to blow up their own building for these? And its not like the US needs an excuse to invade the middle east or get its dipshit citizens to vote for more surveillance on themselves
That renovation story totally sounds like a coverup
"When American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the southwest corner of the Pentagon, 184 people were killed — 64 who were on the plane and 125 people in the building. "
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/9-11-memorial-events-22-years-since-attack-remember-those-who-died/
Do you have your own theory on how/ why 9/11 happened?
Absolutely not, I’m just
in spirit of 9/11
What whistleblowers and files were they trying to destroy? I thought the false flag was to get the public on board with invading Afghanistan and Iraq. What were the whistleblowers whistleblowing about?
the most plausible explanation I’ve heard is that the dod office of the inspector general was conducting a huge multi-year audit effort to untangle literally trillions of dollars of unaudited defense spending, and that the computer systems holding the data were located in that part of the building
ofc the fact checkers are out in force giving ten pinocchios to all of the conspiracy theorists who don’t have enough common sense to tell the difference between “we don’t know where this money is” and “this money is missing,” lol
You don’t need a missile to destroy documents. Auditors routinely get owned by “Documents? What documents? You must be mistaken. Those documents never existed my dude.” and “Oops, Bob the intern accidentally shredded those documents. And those documents. And coincidentally every single document that would incriminate us.” We’re talking about a government agency that has never once passed an audit lol
This is some real conspiracioid shit here. Did America really need excuses to do absolutely horrid shit throughout it’s history?
This is a trap just like JFK bullet trajectory minutae is a trap. CIA malfeasance is totally believable but the end results were: shooting a guy in the head and hitting buildings with planes.
yeah like we dropped a nuke on like 200k japanese civilians and came up with excuses after the fact, we dont really need a reason to do mass murder, we just do it
None of the countries the hijackers came from were invaded by the US. If anything, those countries are US allies. If the whole thing was completely made up by the US, wouldn’t the US have fake Iranian/Afghani/Iraqi/Syrian/Libyan/Yemeni IDs instead of fake Saudi/UAE/Egyptian IDs?
i could see it being a cia fuckup of some kind, training terrorists and then
when they use their training to blow up your shit. but yeah, if it were a fake, why wouldnt they just cover up who these guys are?
What blows me away is there’s actually commenters who believe there was a plane. I thought it was common knowledge there was no plane.
Without in any way addressing these theories, that is so incredibly off. People who believe a missile or thermite etc destroyed the towers are in the minority…
The hole is the part where you really have to suspend all disbelief to carry water for the official story. The fuselage, which is made of cardboard, maintains structural integrity while the wings and engines, made of materials hundreds if not thousands of times stronger, completely dissolved without a trace.
The fuselage contains a great volume of items other than the fuselage
So the chairs and luggage retained enough structural integrity to make a massive perfect hole, but the engines and wings dissolved into literally nothing?
The APU is in the ass of the plane and the landing gear are stored in the fuselage, and they are built like a brick shithouse, most of the weight is in the fuselage … if you’re memeing because it’s 9/11 then it’s going way over my head and I should probably go to sleep
The wings carry fuel and they’re made of carbon fiber and aluminum, lightweight materials. They have to be light relative to the overall mass of the plane to minimize wing loading.
The fuselage contains landing gear, bulkheads, cargo, fuel, APU, and so on, which are not lightweight and not made of cardboard (WTF?) and the body is oriented longitudinally so it drives all that mass into a smaller cross section, whereas the wings distribute their impact over a wider area.
Also, there were conspicuous scorch marks on the wall in the shape of the wings, with a bigger, deeper mark where the engines were, which you’d expect if the fuel in the wings exploded and the entire wing assemblies disintegrated. Also, it doesn’t really make sense that the Pentagon would attack itself with a missile. If they want to assassinate people they’ll just kill them through covert means. If they need to destroy evidence they’ll burn it.
The more incredible story is the missile one, you have to suspend critical thinking and ignore important facts to believe it.
a point they bring up on the trueanon episode about this is that the official story isn’t that believable. the guy who supposedly flew the plane that day (hani hanjour) kept failing exams for flight school and his instructors reported him to the FAA multiple times later recalling that “he could not fly at all.”
but on 9/11 he gets in an unfamiliar plane, flies it to arlington, and then executes a tight 330 degree corkscrew down thousands of feet to smash exactly into the target face of the building at 850kph
idk, something seems fishy about that
I could teach you how to do that in 20 minutes in X-Plane 6.0
later recalling that “he could not fly at all.”
The procedures and techniques necessary to safely and legally operate a commercial aircraft as well as to be considered “able to fly at all” by pilot instructors are far harder than flying into the twin towers
Yeah and the actual pilots got the hard parts out of the way, of starting up the plane, navigating the airport, communicating with ATC, and taking off. “he could not fly at all” means jack shit when the goal is to crash the plane
Is the conspiracy that there were a bunch of poor African Americans living in the Pentagon so they shot a missile at it? I really don’t see why they would shoot a missile at the Pentagon, and also have to fake a plane taking off with hundreds of passengers, staff, hijackers etc involved
