So I was watching a few youtubes and remembered how the vast majority (of like the ten) nes games me and my sister had were hard as all hell. I loved to play Little Nemo and Street Fighter 2010 but I am pretty sure I never made it past the third level of either. Let alone infamously hard games like The Lion King.

Which got me thinking. Basically every game for the past 20 years has been designed around instant gratification and being accessible. We outright had to make a new concept “hard but fair” to account for games like Dark Souls that are designed to be difficult but beatable as opposed to putting you in a death spiral if you hesitate too long on a hard jump (hello Ninja Gaiden).

So do the younger folk even have a concept of a “favorite game” where you likely never experienced more than fifteen minutes worth of content?

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        Ah, I went to play Pokémon Unite instead (even tho Nintendo and their Switch & Mobile only approach)… Bluestacks is an option but not a particularly good one…

        And then there’s Tencent - but you encounter Tencent kinda everywhere right now so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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          So the thing about these linds of games is that you theoretically can master any Champion/Pokémon, but there are some that you just intuitively understand. Keep trying different characters until you find one you gel with in Standard/non-Ranked matches, then get a feel for how to improve your runes/items by playing Ranked and studying your shortcomings. It’s how I found out that I love to play walls and use items that optimize walls for damage. (Iceborn Gauntlet, Sunfire, Demonic Embrace type stuff for LoL and Rocky Helmet/Shell Bell/Drain Crown for Unite.)

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    KSP. Never managed to even land on the Mün without a fast and violent end to the crew, but I loved building spaceships.

    The best thing I managed to do was to achieve an orbit around Kerbin.

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      I’m pretty sure I saw a YouTube video where some actual rocket scientist said that KSP was amazingly realistic, so you having achieved anything at all seems incredible to me! I just know I spent a few hours with that game and never got anything to not explode. Some things would launch but oscillate out of control and explode eventually.

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        Oh no, my rockets oscillated like crazy. I just strapped more boosters and struts and hoped it got out of the atmosphere before it got Kraken’d.

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      I could do manned missions to Mun and Minmus, but I don’t think in my hundreds of hours of play I ever set Kerbal feet on another planet. I did launch some probes though.

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      Shoot same! I swear to God it was like the controls were broken on every rocket I ever made. No matter how symmetrical it was I felt like I was always fighting the controls.

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    literally all fighting games. started with smash, loved to sf4, then dbfz. sucked hard but still f opening fgc content to this day - planning to buy sf6 when i get the chance/time

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    Did, and still do enjoy fast-paced shooters from time to time but I absolutely suck at it. Sometimes you just need to do something exciting without putting too much thought into it and not having a care about whether you win or lose, what your K/D is or whatever. I just find it a nice way to unwind from time to time.

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    I brute forced my way through learning starcraft, it took literal years to get out of the bronze league, probably my most played game of all time. Can’t wait for immortal gates of pyre.

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      Yea StarCraft 2 was this game for me. I first saw some beta gameplay from TotalBiscuit and just got hooked into it and I was so ridiculously bad. I still play every year around Christmas for some reason

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      After years of dominating everyone at my high school in LAN parties, we finally got the Internet at my house and I played my first few online games.

      I got my shit wrecked 10x in a row. Haven’t played SC online since lol

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    Dunno if I’d consider myself “younger” anymore (who am i kidding, i ain’t THAT old lol), but…

    If we count really old games: the OG castlevania’s. Didn’t grow up during that era, but thanks to handmedowns, i got to play pre Symphany Vania when i was super young. Love them, wish i was better at them tho. The collections are sitting in my steam library, and maybe some day, I’ll beat at least one of the classics.

    For something more recent(?) tho, i love me some Touhou. fangames, offically made games by Zun, fan games in the style of Zun, ya name it…but MAN do i suck at the actual bullethell Touhou games. i can make it past two or 3 stages, but then the boss destroys me and I’m like “I CAN choose continue, nothing but pride is stopping me…but also, if i can’t manage this far without continuing, how bad is the rest gonna be??” and wuss out lol

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    Sort of relevant, I had a friend who was really into super smash brothers (brawl, I think). Talked a lot about the competitive scene, different moves and tactics etc. He didn’t have a Wii or Switch though, we were all pretty broke.

    Anyway, some money came buy and he was able to grab a Switch and SSB finally. Super keen.

    And then he just kinda sucked at. It was pretty sad, he almost immediately stopped being excited about it and the Switch, which he had bought new, was barely used a couple of months later. I was kinda worried about him because he wasn’t mentally in a good place before that and talking about SSB seemed like an outlet for him (none of us in the mutual group played or cared about the game).

    This was a while ago, he’s doing much better now

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      Smash Brothers is one of those games where you think you’re good casually but it has such high skill cielings that even other casual players can curb stomp you. It depends so heavily on what sort of games you played growing up. (Assuming you don’t out in effort to practice I mean.) I (used to) be able to reliably win against my wife because she never played anything growing up, but my friends that played a lot of fighting games growing up easily beat me.

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    I am a young user of lemmy ( I am in high school ), And, I really suck in games, but I love the blinding of isaac: repentance,I didnt played as many games as that, but I think it is the hardest game I’ve played, and my favorite.

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      I absolutely sucked at games as a kid, Most of my absolute favourite games I played all day for months on end as a kid I still never finished… even on the easiest setting.

      Wasn’t until my 20s I started going back to a lot of these games and finally completing them 100% on hardest mode. It’s quite a feeling :)

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      Keep and it, in a few years you can be like me. An old guy who loves Issac, but still sucks at it!

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        yeah, it is fun to try and retry, and I love the fact that every game you play are different in some ways. I began to watch “Learning of isaac” from Shisheyu , it is very fun and usefull. Btw do you think people can be interested by a AMA I’m a high school student ( in France)

        edit: I wrote “I’m a high school”, but I’m a human.

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    oh yes, a bunch.

    Sekiro wasn’t as hard for any of my friends then if was for me, that game practically made me not hesitate, even just a little.

    Then there’s ULTRAKILL that game aant you to do everything from muscle memory or it’s straight up going to kill you, Have not perfected the final challenge, but the game is extreamly fun.

    And to give you another example, let’s sag the Keli games. Oxygen NotnIncluded and Don’t Starve (Together), these two can be the two hardest games I’ve ever played. Easly clocking in more then double the playtime then the previous two, and yet I’ve never beaten neither of them. In Oxygen I managed to get to the “mid game”, as the community calls it, ONCE, on m most recent. In Don’t Starve all my notable achievements are because I have friends that play way better than me and we played co-op.

    These games are easly in my top 10, making me work for the reward is much more fun. Played Legue and Fortnite 1k hours in both. I hate them for making me addicted and stealing my life. Oh, also you asked for younger gamers, I’m 17.

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    Well now I just want to watch young people try to beat the unbeatable games of my yout’.

    Prince of Persia, Mega Man X, Ghosts & Goblins, Ecco the Dolphin (my favorite, but I screamed so much at Ecco dying one pixel away from air). Zork without a walkthru. Solve all the puzzles yourself or by talking to friends also playing it blind.

    And you paid $60 ($200 in today’s bullshit money) for this, you can’t get another for 3 months.

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      God damn, I think Super Ghouls and Ghosts gave me PTSD. I literally spent an entire summer where that was the only game I played. The absolute freefall of my happiness when I went from thinking I was going to finally get a chance to beat the final boss to the princess telling me I had to play the game all over again but with a shitty bracelet as a weapon was damned near heartbreaking.

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      I got pretty far in Sands of Time, but never actually finished it. The first miniboss of Warrior Within can eat my entire ass, though.

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    Terraria. Spent so much time in it. Tons of fun. I liked a lot of it. But I compared to other friends and realized I was terrible and barely even saw much of the game cause I didn’t get very far.

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      I have a couple hundred hours in Terraria, am still terrible. Usually get carried by my buddy I play with. Though, to be fair, he has close to a thousand hours, so maybe there’s still hope! Lol