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Yeah that’s what woke is. It’s believing what Americans have always said about our country and demanding it do that.

I’m afraid that the word has long since transcended the borders of your country. In fact it has even transcended the English language and found its way into the language of right-wing culture warriors all over the world.

Also, while I think I know what you’re trying to say, “traditional American values like the idea that all people are created equal” sounds a bit funny considering that your country expressly allowed slavery upon its foundation.

They were doing some thing of pay it forward garbage where they would get donations “so we can open the public eyes” and then buyout a theater showing, which no one was there.

Saw Oppenheimer tonight, the number of people wearing bright pink in the theater lobby was a sight to behold.

It was really cool actually.

I think this article explains it well, wouldnt be surprised if it was some type of money laundering scheme…
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/sound-of-freedom-amc-ticket-sales/

I don’t know much about theaters, but couldn’t the theater be “blocking” those if they know the show isn’t going to be close to booked so they don’t have to clean that section?

I can’t say I’m surprised

https://www.timesofisrael.com/surprise-blockbuster-sound-of-freedom-echoes-antisemitic-qanon-conspiracies/

Someone else linked to this, so it’s at least a documented thing.
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/sound-of-freedom-amc-ticket-sales/

Sound of Freedom - 71% Rotten Tomatoes
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sound_of_freedom
Box office by week:
Tue 7/4 to Mon 7/10 - $45,668,594
Tue 7/12 to Mon 7/17 - $45,064,968
Tue 7/18 to Sun 7/23 - $33,699,950
Total: $124,433,512
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl4254237441/?ref_=bo_tt_gr_1

Barbie - 90% Rotten Tomatoes
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/barbie
Box office by week:
Fri 7/21 to Sun 7/23 - $162,022,044
Total: $162,022,044
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1077904129/?ref_=bo_tt_gr_1

For the record, Oppenheimer - 94% Rotten Tomatoes
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/oppenheimer_2023
Box office by week:
Fri 7/21 to Sun 7/23 - $82,455,420
Total: $82,455,420
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3725886209/?ref_=bo_tt_gr_1

Oppenheimer is 1 hour and 6 minutes longer than Barbie (3 hours vs. 1 hour, 54 minutes), it literally can’t have as many showings and has an age limited audience due to the rating.

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Oh I know, it just amazes me how many people are stupid enough not to see right through it.

It shouldn’t at this point but it’s just so painfully obvious what the grift is.

Yeah that seems to be how it goes, I’m still waiting for any example of Obama being a “Race Baiter” or Kamela Harris actually being the nitwit they claim her to be. I don’t think I’ll ever actually get either.

Mostly shifted purchasing habits to other beers under InBev’s umbrella (Modelo was the big one IIRC). Might have caused InBev some headache logistically to shift production around, but ultimately didn’t really move their bottom line.

Doesn’t really work when people boycott Bud Lite by buying Budweiser

they most definitely have not gone broke sir.

So Anheuser-Busch is doing absolutely fine better than last years and last quarter. What I find absolutely HILARIOUS is these morons switching to other Anheuser-Busch brands in protest. Despite mostly fake news about their demise. They will eventually all just forget about this and move on to their new stupid thing.The dip from this was so small that there wasn’t even really an opportunity to make any money off it. it valleyed at 53 just before a record high of 66 the month prior but its already bouncing back at 58. I wouldn’t invest right now unless you’re looking long-term because they ain’t going nowhere. Also Bud Light sucks why do these idiots drink this shit.

Is doing just fine… More people were pissed about their cowardly reaction to that whole situation.

Show me where on the Anheuser-Busch stock chart where they went broke

It bounced back, and Busch itself isn’t suffering

Disney’s 2023 profits are up 13% YOY

Disney is well on its way to going broke? Lol what?

Let’s see the “news” you’re referring to. I’m genuinely curious who is claiming this and why (though I can take a guess as to the latter).

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For Disney their Diversity Chief Latondra Newton actually left 2017. If anything, they lost money because they de-woked.

I’ve read here, there and nowhere that Disney is preparing for a big deal with Apple, so there might be some directed management towards that effect.

Woke is when someone on the left. Feminist are at least generally associated with the left, therefore woke.

Well the term go woke go broke originated from them and thats the context it seems to me is being used on here. And i find it to be the most used one when criticising media. And you are right that my definition of it is diferent from the one some of yah have. And yours is valid i guess. But i stand by the fact that it doesnt sacrifice quality for the sake of a shoehorned message ( while not being shoehorned in this case).

I unironically call things woke, and have a problem with “woke” movies, and am usually in 100% agreement with the conservative take on this matter. They’re just wrong about Barbie. Barbie isn’t a woke movie. Most of them are getting that “Barbie is woke” because it does a battle of the sexes thing, and it really kicks ken while he’s down (but gives him a satisfying resolution at the end). But since most of these people haven’t seen the film, they’re really just listening to some braindead takes by commenters and political figures. Like they’re seriously unironically taking the 2001 space odyssey parody scene as “anti-mothers” when literally the whole core message of the movie was pro-motherhood. They’re just wrong.

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If you whana go original woke, then its meaning its outside the scope of this since it refers to african americans: Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning “alert to racial prejudice and discrimination” and it was turned to a catch it all term for… well… woke things ie alertness to prejudice. And its true, my definition is more of a negative conotation, since its the more used whe making a critisism on media since thats where i know it from and thats how i thend to see it being used on. And i think that analizing the word itself itself is kinda pointless since i was refering more to the forced elements (mostly political) media inserts into itself for apeal to broader demograpics and subsides from investors. And now im not saying media isnt political, just that they thend to be forced into a topic that they wherent even concidering on the begining. And if you whana use the term “Woke” with your definition then more power to ya, but be aware that its meaning is diferent outside your content sphere. I dont consider myself right nor left at least not in the american sence and thats where im gonna Ieave it that, i think i heard the therm in that negative connotation in other places that where very anti stablishment or in other words very left leaning and leftist outside the USA that is and away from american political discourse and not in some alex jhones or other nuts cookie crazy podcast.

No. Woke just means being aware of other people’s situation. I’m the modern sense it means understanding inequality.

“Woke” is about shoehorning in extreme progressive political “traits”. Whether that’s in preaching the ideology, acting it out (turning white characters black, or adding extended lgbt scenes, etc), and so on. If you watched the barbie movie, what people mean by “woke” is mattel’s behavior in the movie. In the movie, mattel’s behavior is presented as “performative feminism” that’s not genuine, but done for sales and PR/branding. The movie drags mattel hard for this and jabs at it several times. Mattel in the movie is “woke”.

Sasha, at the beginning of the film, is ‘woke’. She literally calls Barbie a fascist, and later “white savior”. Her character is “woke” but realizes how harmful that is.

People saying Barbie is woke is baffling, because a large part of the movie is criticizing woke stuff.

“Does woke mean shoehorned or pandering?”

A little bit of both actually. And yeah, its true what some of you say, its mostly used to describe things we dont like but at the same time giving a reason as to why is that. And the reason being that the piece of media sacrifices a part of its original meaning, character development, setting, dialogue and overall quality, just for the sake of being, or most acuratelly said, apearing diverse while the piece of media itself is about an entirelly diferent mater all togheter. This is mostly done to appeal to the masses, but not those that like to see diversity, its those characters thtat they represent that they think its gonna appeal to that particular demografic be it race, sex or identity. What i mean is that they think they are gonna appeal to lgbt+ people if they insert a character that its what the writers/producers think an lgbt+ person looks and behaves like (i.e. a stereotype or anti-stereotype if they have some awareness)

Barbie is not woke since from the begining it presented itself as to be tackling on sexism, and it was consistent about it from begining to end and did not shoehorn any other things to apeal to other demografics but women in general, and it also helps a lot if you know that the Barbie brand its obviusly for girls, so of course the movie its gonna be for and about women.

An example of a woke movie that tackles similar isues and its actually woke its Black Christmas, and while its main theme from begining to end is sexism and toxic masculinity, its not very well made since the firsr 4/5ts of the movie where kinda like a college sesion on institutionalized sexism and the last bit was like the actual movie that you where expecting. And while at first after you view it you are kinda like yeah this was cool and worked, after some time you realize that no it doesnt, the little there is of horror throught the cathedric part try to justify the twist at the end, and while im not gonna spoil it, it kindda takes away from the original message it was going for, it doesnt contradict it, it just takes credibility away from it.

So no barbie is not woke imho but you can disagree. In the end i could be wrong.

I mean… it is in a superficial way. Since i already wrote about it im just gona link it to yah. Spoiler alert thought.

Thats the mistery thing i was refering to at the end, capitalism, its fully aware of it being the main cause of the state of the world, while at the end it contradicts it and presents itself fighting against patriarchy. In my opinion this was not a mistake but deliberate since they are not gonna bite the hand that feeds them, just knaw on it a little bit since thats what the brand sells, empowerment, not revolution, and that what they do at the end. A little of a spoiler warning, just a little bit, but at the end the protagonists fight to maintain the stablishment after the ken rebelion by tricking them into fighting eachother and preventing them from voting while the kens where second class citicens, and those where the heroes, the ones presented as having the moral high ground. And when its done, the kens whant a place on the council but are denied and are just given an insignificant position on some place just that they dont complain anymore.And while the kens revolution didnt had a good ideology nor does the barbies, its a good example of what happens when a goverment neglets a part of its population. So no, suporting the status quo isnt leftist at all.

I mean, Barbie started out as anything but feminist, so maybe that’s why. Didn’t the Simpsons do a whole episode on how sexist the whole Barbie concept was back in the 90s? I honestly have no clue, I don’t know fucking anything about Barbie.

The weird thing is, if they actually WATCHED the movie, it makes a strong point for mens rights.

Ken is an accessory to Barbie, he has no real life outside her, doesn’t even have his own house. As the film states, for Barbie, every day is the best day ever. For Ken? It’s only a good day when Barbie looks at him, and she often doesn’t because “every night is girls night.”

When Ken finds out the real world is not like that, he fills the void with “Patriarchy”. It’s an absolutely toxic reaction, but it’s hard to fault Ken for trying to find meaning for his existence and instead, slipping and falling down a red pill rabbit hole.

So you can see why disaffected men might feel attacked, Ken is a mirror to their own existence. Sidelined by women, powerless, and told their reaction is, ultimately, unhealthy and self-destructive, but they can’t see how else to react.

The main problem is Ken, and the real world men like Ken, aren’t presented with a socially acceptable alternative.

The end of the film ALMOST recognizes that Barbie’s Dream World and Ken’s “Kenergy” are equally toxic, but I expected a better conclusion where they realize it’s an inversion of the “real” world where women have been seen as accessories for decades, and the only real solution is true equality on both sides.

They don’t take it that far, it’s still Barbie’s world, the Kens just live in it, with token integrated positions for equality, for example, Kens get 1 position on the Barbie Supreme Court. Even in our admittedly imperfect world, the Supreme Court has 4 women on it (Kagan, Sotomayor, Barett, Brown-Jackson). You’d think they’d boost the Barbie supremes to 4 Kens, or at a minimum, 3+Allan.

Eh, I just watched it. From my perspective I see one major problem: it tries to criticize the same problem from two opposite angles which wind up just kinda undercutting each other, while either angle alone could have been pretty powerful, the de facto conclusion of the two together is basically misandry.

Spoilers:

!On the one hand, it presents a gender swapped matriarchy in Barbieland, where Barbies run the world and Kens are basically accessories. If the movie had stayed in Barbieland and focused on Ken’s self-actualization in a female-centric society, that could’ve been a poignant illustration of the opposite struggle in the real world, striking MRAs simultaneously with understanding and cognitive dissonance.

On the other, Ken brings patriarchy into Barbieland and the Barbies 1) are immediately brainwashed? (I don’t think the small pox analogy is sufficient to justify the fact that these doctors and supreme court justices just, decided to be brainwashed?) 2) decide these I guess inherently inferior Ken’s need to be overcome by manipulation? I’m sure this could’ve been turned into something, not as poignant or impressive as the gender-swap concept, but something for sure.

But the two taken together give a really mixed message. Gender subjugation is bad, but it’s okay to do it to men because they’re dumb and bad? Except the men here are metaphors for women in the real world, so is it right to subjugate women in the real world because they’d only just fuck everything up? Is the Kendom an allegory for patriarchy, or a gender-swapped allegory for feminism? Does that mean feminism is bad? We don’t ever get to see Ken actualize, we just see Barbie cut him off and he kinda vapidly goes away? And they conclude acknowledging that the Barbies are subjugating the Kens, so it’s not even like they’re saying women are more enlightened and egalitarian, just that men suck and should be subservient. Society doesn’t really improve, they just squashed the Keninist movement.

It seemed like they were trying to say “patriarchy bad”, but tried to do it by satiration through matriarchy, and also just playing it straight at the same time, which just came out as “men bad”. If they chose a lane, it could’ve stuck. But I just left kinda confused about what they were trying to say, other than a general vibe of “men bad”.!<

It is narrated, “eventually, the Kens would go on to have the same power in Barbieland that women have in the real world” (paraphrased). It’s basically kind of a joke and, perhaps more specifically, a reminder that positive change doesn’t happen overnight. I think it would be a bit… antithetical to spend the whole movie exploring the issues with a supposedly perfect system and then end by saying “okay we fixed it everything is perfect now”.

I don’t think your spoiler tagging worked (or maybe my client hasn’t implemented spoilers)

I will never give that guy my views. Bad taste, bad faith, bad takes. Literally nothing to like there. I was addicted to my outrage, and this guy deals the most potent dose of idiocy you can snort

Cis straight male here. Loved it. Didn’t get half the references exactly, but I could see how they were so lovingly referencing real behaviors common among Barbie play. They must have had a ton of girls come in and play with Barbie just to watch them, interview them, and get insight.

Somehow I never got into Barbies, but now I really really really want a Polly Pocket movie

Except the cool kids, who were in to My Little Ponies before they were Barbie-ized.

And a large minority who were turned off by anything Barbie.

how DARE the new starbucks cup NOT say chirstmass!!!111!!1!!1!

Look man, my wife does whatever I tell her to. She was groomed raised that way.

You know how hard it is to be insecure AND lazy AND have a wife that wants to do crazy shit like “whatever she wants” or even evil communist shit like “get a job” or “talk to others without me listening in” or “disabling the GPS tracker I put on her phone”?

This movie helps drive her in that direction, then what am I supposed to do?

It also lampoons conservative culture of patriarchy.